Will you ever but anther Autodesk product? After ADT2006 I will not!!!!

[Anonymous]

After 6 months of work with 2006 on an off, I finally decided to put it on all systems. After wasting a day to try to put it on one system I have decided to never ever buy a Autodesk product again! This is after 30 years of being a draftsman, use Autocad for over 30 years.

ADT 2006 was rushed out the door, so the yearly subscription won’t seem as big of a waste. (connection not found, menu are not loading, menuload does not work, and but WOW they added color to the select box.

After Autodesk costing my company 100s of hours of down time, they will never ever get a dime from me.

[JMoore]

Voor,

Could you not get some help from you reseller? How many seats were you installing?

We haven't experienced those same problems so I am very positive we will continue purchasing Autodesk products.

Thanks,
Jay Moore
VisionREZ by Ameri-CAD, Inc.
www.visionrez.com

[Anonymous]

Maybe you could describe what specific problems and errors you encountered
and someone could answer them for you. Explaining the process you used would
help troubleshoot the problem. You mention "connection not found, menu are
not loading, menuload does not work" but you don't mention where you are
loading menus from, type of menus, or what the "connection" is. Are you
installing from the installation CDs/DVD, from a deployment image, or other
method? Do you use custom profiles?

Also, Jay's comment about reseller help was good.

I have been installing nearly 200 seats of ADT 2006 in multiple offices of
our company and installation has gone very smooth. I feel that they have
made great strides in making it easier to install on a lot of computers. We
used the deployment wizard to create a deployment image that takes about 15
minutes to install on a user's computer. We have profiles that get loaded
that specify all correct network pathing and also point to the correct CUI
files. The user is up and going with the new release in very short time and
automatically has all of the custom menus, etc that they need.

--
Douglas Bowers, AIA
Director of CAD Technology
Bloodgood Sharp Buster Architects and Planners

[Anonymous]

I agree with Doug, this is the easiest install in years! I had it installed
on 25 machines in around 3 hours and all ran smooth with the deployment
option. I'm not trying to be mean, but maybe you are in over your head with
installing the software this time around. Some things like tool palette can
get a like demanding if your not sure what you are doing with network
settings. Check with your reseller, they should help you for free or a small
fee. To go as far to say it's the software fault is a little out there,
sometimes it a little closer to home. Post some ?'s here, we all can help if
you point us a little more to what the real problems are in detail.
good luck

wrote in message news:5020483@discussion.autodesk.com...
After 6 months of work with 2006 on an off, I finally decided to put it on
all systems. After wasting a day to try to put it on one system I have
decided to never ever buy a Autodesk product again! This is after 30 years
of being a draftsman, use Autocad for over 30 years.

ADT 2006 was rushed out the door, so the yearly subscription won't seem as
big of a waste. (connection not found, menu are not loading, menuload does
not work, and but WOW they added color to the select box.

After Autodesk costing my company 100s of hours of down time, they will
never ever get a dime from me.

[Anonymous]

No problems here installing on 8 machines and getting everybody up to speed.

The age old addage......nine times out of ten it's operator error.........
(actually, that's more like 99 outa 100)

Leo


"Dustin" wrote in message
news:5020604@discussion.autodesk.com...
I agree with Doug, this is the easiest install in years! I had it installed
on 25 machines in around 3 hours and all ran smooth with the deployment
option. I'm not trying to be mean, but maybe you are in over your head with
installing the software this time around. Some things like tool palette can
get a like demanding if your not sure what you are doing with network
settings. Check with your reseller, they should help you for free or a small
fee. To go as far to say it's the software fault is a little out there,
sometimes it a little closer to home. Post some ?'s here, we all can help if
you point us a little more to what the real problems are in detail.
good luck

wrote in message news:5020483@discussion.autodesk.com...
After 6 months of work with 2006 on an off, I finally decided to put it on
all systems. After wasting a day to try to put it on one system I have
decided to never ever buy a Autodesk product again! This is after 30 years
of being a draftsman, use Autocad for over 30 years.

ADT 2006 was rushed out the door, so the yearly subscription won't seem as
big of a waste. (connection not found, menu are not loading, menuload does
not work, and but WOW they added color to the select box.

After Autodesk costing my company 100s of hours of down time, they will
never ever get a dime from me.

[Anonymous]

Voor wrote:

> After Autodesk costing my company 100s of hours of down time, they will never ever get a dime from me.

That's - ummm - your choice I guess. No offense - but as a "draftsman of
30 years" perhaps you should've had an IT person or CAD Manger roll an
application of this size out to that many people.

Did you try this from a known good Admin image with tested settings?
That's probably the best way.


You know -- it's a bit frustrating that you burst in here to tell us
/other/ users instead of talking to your reseller and autodesk directly
though your subscription account. That's what those venues are for you know.


--
David Kurtz
Peckham & Wright Architects, Inc.
Columbia, Missouri

[Anonymous]

Sounds like an untrained ADT user and Network administrator
to me.

Seek help, don't whine, lots of good folks here, and plenty
of good books out there if you are shy about interacting
with others.

--
Dean Saadallah
Add-on products for LT
http://www.pendean.com/lt
--

[cadtastrophe]

Had a similar issue with one of my machines, turned out to be a problem with the way that particular drive read the disc. So we simply installed from another machine (like the one you have been using for 6 months) onto the network, from there pulled all the files onto the "bad" machine... INSTALLED QUICKLY, no problems now for 3 months... That was easier for me than boycotting Autodesk.

FRUSTRATING...YES / END OF THE WORLD...NO

Jeff Camp
PCH Architects llp

[Anonymous]

wow. so you must be the longest known user of Autodesk AutoCAD? 1975 would
be 30 years I think.

I didn't know anyone who has worked that long with AutoCAD. You must know
vanilla AutoCAD like a good book.

Hope you find out the problem before the next 30 years.

Jack Talsky


wrote in message news:5020483@discussion.autodesk.com...
After 6 months of work with 2006 on an off, I finally decided to put it on
all systems. After wasting a day to try to put it on one system I have
decided to never ever buy a Autodesk product again! This is after 30 years
of being a draftsman, use Autocad for over 30 years.

ADT 2006 was rushed out the door, so the yearly subscription won't seem as
big of a waste. (connection not found, menu are not loading, menuload does
not work, and but WOW they added color to the select box.

After Autodesk costing my company 100s of hours of down time, they will
never ever get a dime from me.

[Anonymous]

That is especially impressive as he has about 7 more years of AutoCAD experience than AutoCAD itself has existed - Release 1 [Version 1.0] first shipped in December, 1982.

--

David Koch
Autodesk Discussion Group Facilitator

[Anonymous]

Maybe he's an unaccredited co-creator, that backroom drafter
that developed it all before the big bang... .

--
Dean Saadallah
Add-on products for LT
http://www.pendean.com/lt
--

[Anonymous]

I have talking with my reseller so much he knows my voice and I have tried to get support from Autodesk with no luck. It is not just this one issue but a long line of bugs with ADT, mainly with creating PDF and the communication center. I have been switching from ADT 2005 to ADT 2006 back and forth, trying to get good PDFs. (FYI: Acrobat Pro 7 does not work with ADT 2005 but Adobe claims it with Autocad 2005, and for a price they tell you the fix for ADT 2005)

I’m no program wiz but I can do basics, ADT in my view is become less and less user friendly over the years, with the obvious goal by Autodesk to require you to hire 3Rd party programmers. It’s a joke that Autodesk not including basic blocks like restroom, wheelchair, civil, and exit symbols.

This issue may be?; ADT is not working because of a spyware or other program, but I’m tired of fighting with AutoCAD to get it to work.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes people have difficulty getting help solving a problem because they
have difficulty accurately describing their problem. That's not the fault of
the provider. For example, you talk about problems with pdf. ADT doesn't
even do pdf, so how it that their problem? BTW, there are better pdf
creators out there than Adobe. I use Bluebeam. Its much cheaper and creates
smaller files.

Very few people report having the kinds of problems/frustration you report.
ADT does have bugs, all software does. But I suspect its something on your
end, i.e. hardware, drivers, viruses, lack of experience/knowledge. None of
these are adesk's fault. Sometimes vendors do lack experience in solving
technical problems. If that's the case, find a new vendor. Or ask some
meaningful questions here. There is a lot of support available here.

--
----
Ed
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[Anonymous]

The amazing thing with your problem is that you have been using autocad for thirty year and the company was founded in April of 1982.

[Corinthian]

Aw, come on, let's cut this poor guy some slack. Obviously he's had a couple of very bad days and had to complain to someone about it. I know that usually you can't commiserate with someone at the office about this particular problem because everyone's mad at you because their computer is down and time is money and yadda yadda.

His venting annoyed people because he's talking trash about our baby. But I recognized the feeling he was expressing. He evidently liked the software enough to purchase and attempt to install it. Same here. I like the software itself and think it's great. But. Our company has been talking seriously about competitors. We like ADT but aren't happy with the way Autodesk has been marketing the software and we have serious reservations about our local vendor(s).

We aren't going to jump to a competitor just for spite or to make a point (like anyone would care), but we've discovered there are some viable options out there. If you've ever broken up with someone nice because they have a heinous family, you know what I'm talking about.

As for the "30 years", well, maybe it just felt like it was that long. 🙂

[Anonymous]

Ummm...

You DO know that there's an entire library of individual restroom
components, as well as restroom stall assemblies, including handicap stalls,
along with a wide variety of other plumbing, electrical, ceiling and
furniture symbols?

As well as documentation symbols.

As well as an easy system for creating, managing and distributing your own
custom symbols.

Your problems sound fairly unique - by that I mean they're not common to the
vast majority of users. As someone who does technical support for a
reseller, as well as high-end consultation and training, I can say with all
confidence that the problem is with you, your IT staff, or your hardware/OS
configuration, but not ADT.

--

Matt Dillon
Autodesk Architectural Desktop Certified Expert

View my ADT Blog "Breaking Down the Walls" at
http://www.modocrmadt.blogspot.com

wrote in message news:5021505@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have talking with my reseller so much he knows my voice and I have tried
to get support from Autodesk with no luck. It is not just this one issue but
a long line of bugs with ADT, mainly with creating PDF and the communication
center. I have been switching from ADT 2005 to ADT 2006 back and forth,
trying to get good PDFs. (FYI: Acrobat Pro 7 does not work with ADT 2005 but
Adobe claims it with Autocad 2005, and for a price they tell you the fix for
ADT 2005)

I'm no program wiz but I can do basics, ADT in my view is become less and
less user friendly over the years, with the obvious goal by Autodesk to
require you to hire 3Rd party programmers. It's a joke that Autodesk not
including basic blocks like restroom, wheelchair, civil, and exit symbols.

This issue may be?; ADT is not working because of a spyware or other
program, but I'm tired of fighting with AutoCAD to get it to work.

[Anonymous]

IF YOU DON'T USE AUTODESK PRODUCTS YOU BETTER CHANGE BACK TO DRAFTING TABLES

[Anonymous]

Now that is priceless! efficient and a time saver. 🙂

wrote in message news:5024262@discussion.autodesk.com...
IF YOU DON'T USE AUTODESK PRODUCTS YOU BETTER CHANGE BACK TO DRAFTING TABLES