AEC Dimensions

[Anonymous]

How do I get the AEC dimensions to do the 3'-0" door instead of the 3'-4" door + jambs? -- Regards, --------------- Reid M. Addis Registered Architect Architectural Applications Specialist Granary Associates 411 North 20th Street Philadelphia, PA 19130 Ph. 215-665-7056 email: addis@granaryassoc.com

[Anonymous]

Hi Reid; How have you been? You can do that by using a Door/Window Assembly as the frame component and a door infill with a 0 width frame component. The AEC Dim Style need to be set to dimension the doors & windows and not either the Wall Openings, or Door/Win Assy's. -- Charlie Busa "Reid M. Addis" wrote in message news:40570e43$1_1@newsprd01... > How do I get the AEC dimensions to do the 3'-0" door instead of the 3'-4" > door + jambs? > > -- > Regards, > --------------- > Reid M. Addis > Registered Architect > Architectural Applications Specialist > Granary Associates > 411 North 20th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > Ph. 215-665-7056 > email: addis@granaryassoc.com > >

[Anonymous]

I'm well Charlie! What if I want the door to have a 2" frame though? -- Regards, --------------- Reid M. Addis Registered Architect Architectural Applications Specialist Granary Associates 411 North 20th Street Philadelphia, PA 19130 Ph. 215-665-7056 email: addis@granaryassoc.com

[Anonymous]

I set up the door with a 0" width frame and set the frame element of the door window assembly to 2" so it displays as the frame. Charlie Busa "Reid M. Addis" wrote in message news:405722d0$1_2@newsprd01... > I'm well Charlie! > What if I want the door to have a 2" frame though? > > -- > Regards, > --------------- > Reid M. Addis > Registered Architect > Architectural Applications Specialist > Granary Associates > 411 North 20th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > Ph. 215-665-7056 > email: addis@granaryassoc.com > >

[Anonymous]

No offense to anyone here, but that seems like a really convoluted method to do something that is standard practice. It is nice to be able to do a workaround, but what really needs to happen is that we have the option to dimension the door and window objects correctly. "cbusa" wrote in message news:4057269c$1_1@newsprd01... > I set up the door with a 0" width frame and set the frame element of the > door window assembly to 2" so it displays as the frame. > > Charlie Busa > > > > "Reid M. Addis" wrote in message > news:405722d0$1_2@newsprd01... > > I'm well Charlie! > > What if I want the door to have a 2" frame though? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > --------------- > > Reid M. Addis > > Registered Architect > > Architectural Applications Specialist > > Granary Associates > > 411 North 20th Street > > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > > Ph. 215-665-7056 > > email: addis@granaryassoc.com > > > > > >

[Anonymous]

And welcome to the AEC Dimensions :^( They need to make AutoCAD Dimensions work with AEC Objects which would make all of our lives a lot easier... "Daniel Hebert" wrote in message news:40574448$1_1@newsprd01... > No offense to anyone here, but that seems like a really convoluted method to > do something that is standard practice. It is nice to be able to do a > workaround, but what really needs to happen is that we have the option to > dimension the door and window objects correctly. > > > "cbusa" wrote in message > news:4057269c$1_1@newsprd01... > > I set up the door with a 0" width frame and set the frame element of the > > door window assembly to 2" so it displays as the frame. > > > > Charlie Busa > > > > > > > > "Reid M. Addis" wrote in message > > news:405722d0$1_2@newsprd01... > > > I'm well Charlie! > > > What if I want the door to have a 2" frame though? > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > --------------- > > > Reid M. Addis > > > Registered Architect > > > Architectural Applications Specialist > > > Granary Associates > > > 411 North 20th Street > > > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > > > Ph. 215-665-7056 > > > email: addis@granaryassoc.com > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Anonymous]

I honestly thought this AEC Dimension issue was going to be fixed in 2004, and I guess it still isn't? Also, I thought that AutoCAD dimensions did now work with AEC objects? Oh well, ADT2006 is only a year away! -- Regards, --------------- Reid M. Addis Registered Architect Architectural Applications Specialist Granary Associates 411 North 20th Street Philadelphia, PA 19130 Ph. 215-665-7056 email: addis@granaryassoc.com

[Anonymous]

Reid you can dimension Aec Objects using AutoCAD Dims but they don't move when a door shifts like AEC Dims. Also AutoCAD Dims don't work on Xrefs like AEC Dims do. Really wish they would fix this on the next release. "Reid M. Addis" wrote in message news:4058bf13$1_1@newsprd01... > I honestly thought this AEC Dimension issue was going to be fixed in 2004, > and I guess it still isn't? > Also, I thought that AutoCAD dimensions did now work with AEC objects? > Oh well, ADT2006 is only a year away! > > -- > Regards, > --------------- > Reid M. Addis > Registered Architect > Architectural Applications Specialist > Granary Associates > 411 North 20th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > Ph. 215-665-7056 > email: addis@granaryassoc.com > >

[Anonymous]

Hi Reid, Are you speaking of situations in frame walls where the frame overlaps the GWB? If so, then you can design the door with a 0" frame and add custom jamb blocks to the door style. I can post a demo if you're interested. I agree that this choice should be an option. AEC dimensions are great but they still lack some flexibility. Most of my frame doors are dimensioned to the CL of the opening and use the door schedule for sizes. Regards, Doug "Reid M. Addis" wrote in message news:4058bf13$1_1@newsprd01... > I honestly thought this AEC Dimension issue was going to be fixed in 2004, > and I guess it still isn't? > Also, I thought that AutoCAD dimensions did now work with AEC objects? > Oh well, ADT2006 is only a year away! > > -- > Regards, > --------------- > Reid M. Addis > Registered Architect > Architectural Applications Specialist > Granary Associates > 411 North 20th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > Ph. 215-665-7056 > email: addis@granaryassoc.com > >

[Anonymous]

You must do residential ? No, all I want is a dumb door frame, listed in the style as 2". So I have a 3'-0" door with 2" frames on both sides, and I want the AEC dimension to dimension the freaking opening (3'-0") instead of the rough opening (3'-4"). And as much as I enjoyed dinner with Charlie at AU last year, there is no way I'm using window assemblies to put in a door. Ok, here's my plea: "Please fix this!" I want to be able to put in one set of AEC dimensions that can be scale sensitive based on display configurations. -- Regards, --------------- Reid M. Addis Registered Architect Architectural Applications Specialist Granary Associates 411 North 20th Street Philadelphia, PA 19130 Ph. 215-665-7056 email: addis@granaryassoc.com

[Anonymous]

And while we are at it, can we have to opotion to dimension to the baseline of the wall and not always the face of finish? These two issues are the biggest complaints I get about AEC dimensions. Fix these and we are golden. "Reid M. Addis" wrote in message news:4059c31a_2@newsprd01... > You must do residential ? > No, all I want is a dumb door frame, listed in the style as 2". So I have a > 3'-0" door with 2" frames on both sides, and I want the AEC dimension to > dimension the freaking opening (3'-0") instead of the rough opening (3'-4"). > And as much as I enjoyed dinner with Charlie at AU last year, there is no > way I'm using window assemblies to put in a door. > > Ok, here's my plea: "Please fix this!" I want to be able to put in one set > of AEC dimensions that can be scale sensitive based on display > configurations. > > -- > Regards, > --------------- > Reid M. Addis > Registered Architect > Architectural Applications Specialist > Granary Associates > 411 North 20th Street > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > Ph. 215-665-7056 > email: addis@granaryassoc.com > >

[Anonymous]

Hi Daniel; That's pretty easy to do for exterior walls, a bit more of a problem for interior partitions which require manual adjustment for one side only dimensioning. -- Charlie Busa "Daniel Hebert" wrote in message news:405a45e8$1_1@newsprd01... > And while we are at it, can we have to opotion to dimension to the baseline > of the wall and not always the face of finish? These two issues are the > biggest complaints I get about AEC dimensions. Fix these and we are golden. > > "Reid M. Addis" wrote in message > news:4059c31a_2@newsprd01... > > You must do residential ? > > No, all I want is a dumb door frame, listed in the style as 2". So I have > a > > 3'-0" door with 2" frames on both sides, and I want the AEC dimension to > > dimension the freaking opening (3'-0") instead of the rough opening > (3'-4"). > > And as much as I enjoyed dinner with Charlie at AU last year, there is no > > way I'm using window assemblies to put in a door. > > > > Ok, here's my plea: "Please fix this!" I want to be able to put in one set > > of AEC dimensions that can be scale sensitive based on display > > configurations. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > --------------- > > Reid M. Addis > > Registered Architect > > Architectural Applications Specialist > > Granary Associates > > 411 North 20th Street > > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > > Ph. 215-665-7056 > > email: addis@granaryassoc.com > > > > > >

[Anonymous]

I know. If you consider the baseline of a wall to be where you would snap the chalk line in the field, you begin to understand the importance of having this ability. Most often, you choose where you want the stud line to go and the GWB ends up wherever it ends up relative to that. Even if I am concerning myself with inside clear distance, I still need to make sure the contractor is placing the the studs in the correct location so that it all works out. The only easy way to do this now is to create wall styles that only have the stud which defeats the purpose of creating a BIM. "cbusa" wrote in message news:405b0fdc$1_3@newsprd01... > Hi Daniel; > > That's pretty easy to do for exterior walls, a bit more of a problem for > interior partitions which require manual adjustment for one side only > dimensioning. > > -- > Charlie Busa > > > "Daniel Hebert" wrote in message > news:405a45e8$1_1@newsprd01... > > And while we are at it, can we have to opotion to dimension to the > baseline > > of the wall and not always the face of finish? These two issues are the > > biggest complaints I get about AEC dimensions. Fix these and we are > golden. > > > > "Reid M. Addis" wrote in message > > news:4059c31a_2@newsprd01... > > > You must do residential ? > > > No, all I want is a dumb door frame, listed in the style as 2". So I > have > > a > > > 3'-0" door with 2" frames on both sides, and I want the AEC dimension to > > > dimension the freaking opening (3'-0") instead of the rough opening > > (3'-4"). > > > And as much as I enjoyed dinner with Charlie at AU last year, there is > no > > > way I'm using window assemblies to put in a door. > > > > > > Ok, here's my plea: "Please fix this!" I want to be able to put in one > set > > > of AEC dimensions that can be scale sensitive based on display > > > configurations. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > --------------- > > > Reid M. Addis > > > Registered Architect > > > Architectural Applications Specialist > > > Granary Associates > > > 411 North 20th Street > > > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > > > Ph. 215-665-7056 > > > email: addis@granaryassoc.com > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Anonymous]

I have quite a bit of Layout experience, both in Commercial and Residential construction. Most people I know snap both sides of stud in the field after determining the proper placement of the stud. In Commercial often the drawings are dimensioned to the face of finish, and the contractors layout crew decides where to place the frame line. In residential (at least in the Southeast) most drawings are done to face of stud and the gwb component is not important either to the drawing or to the dimension lines. Both sides of the plate or track are marked to ensure the wall is placed in the correct spot, an 'X' on one side is too easy to miss. In my opinion it really doesn't matter, at all, what type of dimensioning is used on the drawing any Contractor should be quite comfortable using all of the different standard methods, as it is very likely that they have seen them all repeatedly. It isn't too difficult to set up an AEC dimstyle to dimension to the face of stud and ignore the GWB components for an interior partition without manual intervention, but it doesn't work as well as the exterior does. -- Charlie Busa "Daniel Hebert" wrote in message news:405b266d$1_3@newsprd01... > I know. If you consider the baseline of a wall to be where you would snap > the chalk line in the field, you begin to understand the importance of > having this ability. Most often, you choose where you want the stud line to > go and the GWB ends up wherever it ends up relative to that. Even if I am > concerning myself with inside clear distance, I still need to make sure the > contractor is placing the the studs in the correct location so that it all > works out. The only easy way to do this now is to create wall styles that > only have the stud which defeats the purpose of creating a BIM. > > "cbusa" wrote in message > news:405b0fdc$1_3@newsprd01... > > Hi Daniel; > > > > That's pretty easy to do for exterior walls, a bit more of a problem for > > interior partitions which require manual adjustment for one side only > > dimensioning. > > > > -- > > Charlie Busa > > > > > > "Daniel Hebert" wrote in message > > news:405a45e8$1_1@newsprd01... > > > And while we are at it, can we have to opotion to dimension to the > > baseline > > > of the wall and not always the face of finish? These two issues are the > > > biggest complaints I get about AEC dimensions. Fix these and we are > > golden. > > > > > > "Reid M. Addis" wrote in message > > > news:4059c31a_2@newsprd01... > > > > You must do residential ? > > > > No, all I want is a dumb door frame, listed in the style as 2". So I > > have > > > a > > > > 3'-0" door with 2" frames on both sides, and I want the AEC dimension > to > > > > dimension the freaking opening (3'-0") instead of the rough opening > > > (3'-4"). > > > > And as much as I enjoyed dinner with Charlie at AU last year, there is > > no > > > > way I'm using window assemblies to put in a door. > > > > > > > > Ok, here's my plea: "Please fix this!" I want to be able to put in one > > set > > > > of AEC dimensions that can be scale sensitive based on display > > > > configurations. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > --------------- > > > > Reid M. Addis > > > > Registered Architect > > > > Architectural Applications Specialist > > > > Granary Associates > > > > 411 North 20th Street > > > > Philadelphia, PA 19130 > > > > Ph. 215-665-7056 > > > > email: addis@granaryassoc.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Anonymous]

Contractors don't look at dimensions anyway ;)! -- Regards, --------------- Reid M. Addis Registered Architect Architectural Applications Specialist Granary Associates 411 North 20th Street Philadelphia, PA 19130 Ph. 215-665-7056 email: addis@granaryassoc.com