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*T&P
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align

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11-24-1999 07:57 PM
Hello,

Logged on to your site for a minute and read for two hours - great
suggestions!

Questions:
1. If I have two or more entities (say different sized rectangles or
different items from the library), can I align them? i.e. I want them
all to align their left side (or bottom or centres...) along one
straight path. I am used to setting up templates for data bases and
aligning fields is a standard practice. Can I align entities in
AutoSketch 6?

2. Many years ago (with Generic CAD) I could snap to a point on an
entity and then move the entity. It seems that I must choose a function
before I can snap to a point with AS6. Is there a way to snap to a
point and then move the entity? I did read changing the About Point
(about an hour ago) and that works.

Many Thanks,

Tom Weinstein
*Jackson, Paul
Message 2 of 8 (154 Views)

Re: align

11-24-1999 10:36 PM in reply to: *T&P
Hello Tom

Here's some answers.

T&P wrote in message <383CB3B6.F4B17FFF@haltonbe.on.ca>...
>Hello,
>
>Logged on to your site for a minute and read for two hours - great
>suggestions!
>

I hope you wer'nt reading Harvey's jokes, he's getting OLD you know.

>Questions:
>1. If I have two or more entities (say different sized rectangles or
>different items from the library), can I align them? i.e. I want them
>all to align their left side (or bottom or centres...) along one
>straight path. I am used to setting up templates for data bases and
>aligning fields is a standard practice. Can I align entities in
>AutoSketch 6?

To do this move the About Point (Round bit in the middle when you select
objects)
Select Rectangle
Right Mouse Click over About Point
Select Move About Point with LEFT MOUSE.
Drag about point using Snap (M) to middle of left side using left mouse.
Drag the new About point to the right hand side of other rectangle.
The tow rectangabuoles are now joined by the mid points.

X and Y can also be used to LOCK horizontal and Verticle.

>2. Many years ago (with Generic CAD) I could snap to a point on an
>entity and then move the entity. It seems that I must choose a function
>before I can snap to a point with AS6. Is there a way to snap to a
>point and then move the entity? I did read changing the About Point
>(about an hour ago) and that works.

Ditto, this is the easiest way of moving single objects, otherwise use
Transform>Translate.

>Many Thanks,
>
>Tom Weinstein
>
*T&P
Message 3 of 8 (154 Views)

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11-25-1999 04:05 AM in reply to: *T&P
Thank you Paul,

Can this new About Point be locked onto the new location of the entity?
After the entity is unselected, the About Point changes location back to
where it started.

With thanks,

TW
*Jackson, Paul
Message 4 of 8 (154 Views)

Re:

11-25-1999 04:57 PM in reply to: *T&P
Hello

The only entities with about points off centre are Symbols and Text as these
items are defined by the user. I would imagine the logistics of user
defined About Points for common entities would be too much, the files are
big enough now.

However if you use a grid you can use snap about point to grid in the
settings and this way you can use Grid snap and move entities by the grid
snap interval.

Also holding the SHIFT key down and using the arrows will move a selection
by the Grid Snap.

Paul

T&P wrote in message <383D261A.27010C6@haltonbe.on.ca>...
>Thank you Paul,
>
>Can this new About Point be locked onto the new location of the entity?
>After the entity is unselected, the About Point changes location back to
>where it started.
>
>With thanks,
>
>TW
>
*T&P
Message 5 of 8 (154 Views)

Re:

11-25-1999 05:34 PM in reply to: *T&P
Thank you,

And by the way... I liked Harvey's jokes... I think. And how old is
old???

Thanks again for sharing your expertise.

Tom Weinstein
*Smith, Harvey
Message 6 of 8 (154 Views)

Re: align

11-26-1999 01:46 PM in reply to: *T&P
Hiya, Tom.

I think it's in your best interests to forget what Paul said about moving the
About Point, etc. I know he's due for another distemper shot soon, but following
those badly typed suggestions will confuse an otherwise simple approach. As an
alternative, I might suggest you use the Align tool, it's there for this purpose
I think. And Paul is the one that said that to me LAST year when he was being
fresh to his elders.

As an exersize, give this a shot:

1. Make sure the Status bar is showing on the bottom of the screen. Draw two
rectangles of different sizes. Now Select one of them that you want to move.
2. Choose the Align tool, or get it from Edit>Transform>Align. The Status bar is
now asking you to choose the axis start point on the Selected rectangle. Type E
for end point, and click on one end of the side you want aligned.
3. The Status bar now asks for the axis end point, so click on the other end of
the side you want aligned.
4. Now the Status bar is asking you to choose the New axis start point, so click
on the end of the leg on the other rectangle. Then click its other end. The
first rectangle you selected is now aligned and moved to leg of the second
rectangle.

If you want to use Midpoint snaps (type ) that's OK, too. You can move the
rectangles to their midpoints. Play around with snaps and the Align tool to see
all the ways to do it.

BTW, there's other ways to do this. I like the Translate tool, this one works
easiest for me. After Selecting the first Rectangle, you can Translate any part
of it to any other part of the second rectangle. In that case, you can move the
About Point to advantage. Works like the Align tool. But keep your eye on that
Status bar. It's telling you what the program expects you to do next. Follow
those directions and you can't go wrong. Except when you take Paul's suggestions
too seriously.

And there doesn't seem to be a way to lock the About Point to new positions.
Works once, that's it. It goes back to the Centered position.

Harvey

A lot of times when they catch a guy who killed twenty-seven people, they say,
"he was a loner." Well, of course he was a loner; he killed everyone he came in
contact with.

T&P wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Logged on to your site for a minute and read for two hours - great
> suggestions!
>
> Questions:
> 1. If I have two or more entities (say different sized rectangles or
> different items from the library), can I align them? i.e. I want them
> all to align their left side (or bottom or centres...) along one
> straight path. I am used to setting up templates for data bases and
> aligning fields is a standard practice. Can I align entities in
> AutoSketch 6?
>
> 2. Many years ago (with Generic CAD) I could snap to a point on an
> entity and then move the entity. It seems that I must choose a function
> before I can snap to a point with AS6. Is there a way to snap to a
> point and then move the entity? I did read changing the About Point
> (about an hour ago) and that works.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Tom Weinstein

--
http://www.westnet.com/~harvey/
*T&P
Message 7 of 8 (154 Views)

Re:

11-26-1999 03:39 PM in reply to: *T&P
Thanks Harvey,

Both your solution and Paul's work. Each seems to have its own
particular advantages and applications. I've learned from you two wise
sages.

And as was once said to me: "Don't be afraid to try new things...
remember, professionals built the Titanic... amateurs built the ark."

Many Thanks,

Tom
*Smith, Harvey
Message 8 of 8 (154 Views)

Re:

11-26-1999 04:08 PM in reply to: *T&P
T&P wrote:
>
> Thanks Harvey,
>
> Both your solution and Paul's work. Each seems to have its own
> particular advantages and applications. I've learned from you two wise
> sages.
>
> And as was once said to me: "Don't be afraid to try new things...
> remember, professionals built the Titanic... amateurs built the ark."
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Tom

Let's see. The Ark seemed to do quite well. Except Noah refused to kill those
two mosquitoes. The Titanic...hmmm, DiCaprio made some money.

Paul's a professional, I'm not.

H

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