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*L, Chris
Message 1 of 20 (1,019 Views)

Problem: Default Snap

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11-28-2001 01:29 PM
See Smart comment way below....



Default Snap Problem:
Dear Autodesk engineers, I have dealt with this problem since I bought
version 7. Problem consists of the fact that we can set a "Default" Snap
selection in an options window, but as we use one at a time turning them
on and off, you forgot to put a simply little button or key command in
place to TURN THEM BACK ON!

Fortunately, I with the flick of the wrist, use Sensiva to automatically
type the letters: emnpictq which corelate to my personal default
favorites.

I hope this can be fixed.

yours truly,

Chris L





Ok, I am going to start a new wave. I will put my
dislike/bug/improvement request right in the subject line. This is the
first in a series. I am also going to put the word PROBLEM in the very
front of that line so it will be easy to find. Hopefully, some engineer
could easily sort thru the group and log user comments and complaints.
Maybe then these items could be repaired by version 11.

I am going to try to do one per day. Then in 12 days I should be done
:-) Right??

take it easy Adesk.............I'm just funnin' ya.
*Jackson, Paul
Message 2 of 20 (1,019 Views)

Re: Problem: Default Snap

11-29-2001 10:40 AM in reply to: *L, Chris
Hello

The key toggles the multisnap on and off

Paul

"Chris L" wrote in message
news:3C05C7CC.27EA9C7@lakefield.net...
> See Smart comment way below....
>
>
>
> Default Snap Problem:
> Dear Autodesk engineers, I have dealt with this problem since I bought
> version 7. Problem consists of the fact that we can set a "Default" Snap
> selection in an options window, but as we use one at a time turning them
> on and off, you forgot to put a simply little button or key command in
> place to TURN THEM BACK ON!
>
> Fortunately, I with the flick of the wrist, use Sensiva to automatically
> type the letters: emnpictq which corelate to my personal default
> favorites.
>
> I hope this can be fixed.
>
> yours truly,
>
> Chris L
>
>
>
>
>
> Ok, I am going to start a new wave. I will put my
> dislike/bug/improvement request right in the subject line. This is the
> first in a series. I am also going to put the word PROBLEM in the very
> front of that line so it will be easy to find. Hopefully, some engineer
> could easily sort thru the group and log user comments and complaints.
> Maybe then these items could be repaired by version 11.
>
> I am going to try to do one per day. Then in 12 days I should be done
> :-) Right??
>
> take it easy Adesk.............I'm just funnin' ya.
>
>
>
>
*L, Chris
Message 3 of 20 (1,019 Views)

Problem: Line Width

11-29-2001 10:49 AM in reply to: *L, Chris
(please bear with this very old rant for the sake of a repair making it into
AS by version 17 or so)

Problem: Line Width settings

There are multiple problems with the way AS handles Line Widths.

First and Simple: Too Thin - OR Too Wide. Nothing in the middle ! (not
that it would necessarily help)

Line widths need to have a USER Setting. .INI, .CFG, or a dialog box for
"Default Line widths". Users should have the option to set up as many
different line widths as they would like, subsequently showing up in the
corresponding "Drop Down" box.
The more "setup", the more available. In that there are 50 different line
styles, one should be able to have 20 or so line widths.

Secondly: Lines themselves should be just lines. Ditch the age old
concept of PolyLines and PolyArcs (unless someone can tell me one good
reason why other than below) Many current programs DO NOT use such a
variation. "poly schmally"!

I should be able to trim ANY entity to ANYTHING without Exploding or
Converting. (text excluded, I know how much that would be to ask for) One
should even be able to trim to GROUPED entities. I should be able to select
multiple lines to trim to at one time. Yes, others are doing these things.

If, and I say IF, one must use polylines, Then use ALL polylines, allowing
the user to set "Default" widths, and again, widths that will subsequently
show up in the Drop Down Box. Currently, the Drop down box does nothing for
poly lines. Then lines are lines and no-one will have to care.

Thirdly: Whatever is done with the LINES issue, it must allow for
compatability with other AutoDesk products. By Golly, if you can "Save" an
AS file as a DWG, it only makes sense that ANY A-Desk dwg file can be opened
correctly in AS. Otherwise it is just plain foolish to even give AS .dwg
capability. We'd be as well off with DXF ! This MAY be an area where
polylines might have to still play a part, maintaining "sdrawkcab" (sorry-
"backwards") capability for Antique programs with the command line windows.

Thank-you for your time today,
Chris L

(note, this "PROBLEM" thread will stay together if I continue to reply off
of the original from 11-26. Feel free to join in in this format. Then ALL
problems will be under ONE THREAD.)
*L, Chris
Message 4 of 20 (1,019 Views)

Re:

11-29-2001 11:06 AM in reply to: *L, Chris
Yes Paul,
But, if you turn them on or off individually here and there, you will only
toggle the ones that were currently on when you truned them off !

So, turn a bunch on. Turn some off, press S key, now they are all off right ?
Press S. Did your "Default" settings come back on ?

Where is the button or key command for turning back on your "default snaps"?
I only find the "Default Snaps" to activate on new drawing or program boot.
Silly if you ask me.

But, then again, I can turn them on via External Macro..........

Thanks,

Chris L

Paul Jackson wrote:

> Hello
>
> The key toggles the multisnap on and off
>
> Paul
>
> "Chris L" wrote in message
> news:3C05C7CC.27EA9C7@lakefield.net...
> > See Smart comment way below....
> >
> >
> >
> > Default Snap Problem:
> > Dear Autodesk engineers, I have dealt with this problem since I bought
> > version 7. Problem consists of the fact that we can set a "Default" Snap
> > selection in an options window, but as we use one at a time turning them
> > on and off, you forgot to put a simply little button or key command in
> > place to TURN THEM BACK ON!
> >
> > Fortunately, I with the flick of the wrist, use Sensiva to automatically
> > type the letters: emnpictq which corelate to my personal default
> > favorites.
> >
> > I hope this can be fixed.
> >
> > yours truly,
> >
> > Chris L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, I am going to start a new wave. I will put my
> > dislike/bug/improvement request right in the subject line. This is the
> > first in a series. I am also going to put the word PROBLEM in the very
> > front of that line so it will be easy to find. Hopefully, some engineer
> > could easily sort thru the group and log user comments and complaints.
> > Maybe then these items could be repaired by version 11.
> >
> > I am going to try to do one per day. Then in 12 days I should be done
> > :-) Right??
> >
> > take it easy Adesk.............I'm just funnin' ya.
> >
> >
> >
> >
*L, Chris
Message 5 of 20 (1,019 Views)

Problem: Auto-Highlight

11-30-2001 12:29 PM in reply to: *L, Chris
Todays Feature: Fix the lack of "Auto-Highlight" in the "Fillet",
"Chamfer", "Line Length" and "Radius" Input boxes.

These need to operate exactly as the OFFSET dialog box. Hopefully I have not
missed any,

I raise this issue because it would seem that IF the Offset dimension input
dialog box automatically "HighLights" itself the minute you select the
Offset Command, Why would one not offer the same advantage for the other
similar dialog boxes??
This is one of the very first things I missed having come from a program
that DID Auto-Highlight everything.

The Auto-Highlight feature is an excellent one. The minute you select a
tool, the program is waiting for keyboard input. You do not have to mouse up
to the top, to highlight the Incorrect dimension. Just type and "enter".

This feature should also be taken as far as the "Parallel Line" command.
Imagine, "pulling off" a parallel line just as you do now. But, in addition
to the program allowing you to "Snap" it, A dialog box has the current
location in it and it is HIGHLIGHTED, ready to take keyboard input.

This can not really replace the offset command in that you need the
existing "offset" for placing repeated entities the same distance over and
over.


Chris Luebke

Day 3
*L, Chris
Message 6 of 20 (1,019 Views)

Problem: Circle "Radius"

12-01-2001 12:52 PM in reply to: *L, Chris
> Problem - Circle "Radius":

AutoSketch needs to have an input window for "DIAMETER".

I think it is fair to say that the use of diameter far outweighs Radius. Who
pulls a ruler or measuring device across a hole and tells you its dimension
by Radius ? No One I've ever met.

When you go to your Drill box to look for a 1/4" drill bit, Does the little
tag on the box call it a 1/8" Radius bit?

When I yell down to my co-worker to hand up a length of 1/2" Conduit, Does
He hand me 1" diameter conduit ??

When I switch between the Boat and the Camper, usually the ball is the wrong
size. Do I ask my wife to get me the 1" radius ball or the 15/16" radius
ball ?

You see, the use of RADIUS for something that is a full circle is
ridiculous. RADIUS belongs with Arcs NOT Circles.

Now, if I need to draw an existing object, I can measure the hole(s)
diameter and type it into the Radius box, then /2 and get the correct
answer. But when the item I am drawing has 50 holes this is NOT the way to
be productive !!

How much work could it be to add a diameter box on that circle edit bar ?
C'mon, ditch the age old tactics and techniques of AutoCad and move into the
current century. And, make SURE that the DIAMETER input dialog automatically
highlights and NOT the Radius one. (I'll let you leave both of them on there
for the old timers)


Chris L

Day4
*Howe, Graham
Message 7 of 20 (1,019 Views)

Problem: Circle "Radius"

12-02-2001 01:31 AM in reply to: *L, Chris
In message <3C09B39C.2D72C270@lakefield.net>, Chris L
writes
>I think it is fair to say that the use of diameter far outweighs
>Radius. Who pulls a ruler or measuring device across a hole and tells
>you its dimension by Radius ?
Agreed but I just enter dia/2
--
Graham Howe mail: (ghowe@mcb.net)
Home Web site: http://www.homepages.mcb.net/howe/
*Brown, Anne
Message 8 of 20 (1,019 Views)

Problem: Line Width

12-02-2001 04:07 AM in reply to: *L, Chris
Gentlemen -

Please do not change the subject line of newsgroup messages to which you
are replying. It breaks the ability of the search engine to group the
messages, makes it hard to follow the thread and is quite confusing. If
it is a new subject, please start a new message; if a reply, put your
text answer in the body of your message and leave the header the same.
There are now four different subject titles all under the original
header. Grouping the problems would work in the NNTP side of the
newsgroups but on the HTTP they all now fall under the original header
title.
---
Anne Brown
Manager, Moderator
Autodesk Product Support discussion groups
Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion
*L, Chris
Message 9 of 20 (1,019 Views)

Problem: Line Width

12-02-2001 08:42 AM in reply to: *L, Chris
Anne Wrote:

">>>but on the HTTP they all now fall under the original header title.<<<"

Excellent !
I am doing this PRECISELY to keep these grouped together. If you look at the
very first post, ALL of my complaints are connected to the thread. I should
have named the thread simply "Problems" and posted my problems as replys
underneath. Can't you change the name of the first subject body in this
thread? Or should I start my rants OVER in my own little "My Problems"
subject line, adding daily to it ? No law against me talking to myself is
there ??

It's not so bad this way, Probably beneficial. At least if I am wrong on an
issue and someone comes back and tells me why, users won't be left in the
dark. It is still tied together.

Heck, I just go Sort> by thread< and there they all are! Everything is under
the first post from 11-29. Hopefully it will only contain information about
the subject line issue and not "Donuts", "Chili", Terrorism, Politics, or
even bugs in your bananas.

Why am I doing this ? I went back and tried to figure out just what were the
biggest complaints about AS. Difficult at best. Remember all those Server
Upgrades and what not you guys pulled a while back ?? Yikes !, Too much runs
way off track.

Go ahead, search back and find out what the complaints were in AS. You will
look forever and not come up with exactly what you are looking for. It may
be why AD's engineers acted as if nothing was wrong with the program. Just a
bunch of happy users, so they did little with v8.

If I keep doing what I am doing, All of MY complaints are in one spot. Of
course they are only MY views, but, these are items I think AS needs to have
fixed. At least I know they will get read by someone, unlike the AS wishlist
joke.

GreigJ, whom we have NOT heard from since last week, indicated there were 12
items fixed in V8. I asked what those 12 were. Does he know? We'd like to
know, at least the last few here sticking it out. I mean C'mon, "Whats the
problem with line width??" What a lame question if you just browse this
group for 10 minutes.

Ric Norris properly identified a real issue in regards line width that goes
beyond just little problems. His is a issue that should have been solved
long ago if Sketch was to "Claim" DWG capability. 210 copies of AS..... I'd
fix the problem! Heck if AS worked the way it should, there would be many
more companies buying Sketch in huge quantities, and few of the higher end
products. This way they just buy a few higher end ones and nothing else.

Has GreigJ RESPONDED to Ric ??? Not that I have been able to
tell..............

I took a break from daily reading this group until I found that V8 was
coming out. A great bunch of dedicated individuals for sure like Harvey,
Ric, Graham, PaulJ, JohnN, Len, H Alm, Gerhard...... and all the others.
But, the group became stale and boring because ALL of the same old same old
problems were being discussed.

Guys like Harvey, who seems to have lost interest in the little games behind
AS, clearly became burdened doing ALL of the support for newbies. Same
message to type over and over and over. Lord knows AD gave no support, just
computer generated dribble like the one on 11-20. (gee, I wonder if GreigJ
is real or the name of a machine.............)

All of the problem issues of V7 were long talked out. Most were clearly
defined back in early 2000. Surely one would have thought that on the brink
of 2002, they would have figured things out for V8. It looks like yet
another 2 years before the 6.1 users will spend a dime.... even the 2.1
users for that matter ! I may be swayed IF I knew what 12 issues were fixed.
Can I print to my HP 4000 now ?? (worlds most common laserjet which is not
compatible with AS7 in any environment I've tried)

So, What should I do ? Keep my "Problems Posts" in-line so we can get some
results by version 12 ? Or, scatter them all over the place like they have
been for the last 2 years, leading individuals at bay as to what they shoul
fix ? Let me know.

Without the small issues fixed, I am going to do something this next year. I
don't feel like waiting for Sketch to get fixed if its another 2 years.
Other programs are excelling around AS.... Sheez, Can't believe V8 has the
same problems. Too bad..... it was sooooo close !

Sorry fellas....... "Problems" Posts have been put on hold until I get
"clearance" from the Tower to continue.

Awaiting a comment from Anne,

Chris Luebke
DATA-CUT

Anne Brown wrote:

> Gentlemen -
>
> Please do not change the subject line of newsgroup messages to which you
> are replying. It breaks the ability of the search engine to group the
> messages, makes it hard to follow the thread and is quite confusing. If
> it is a new subject, please start a new message; if a reply, put your
> text answer in the body of your message and leave the header the same.
> There are now four different subject titles all under the original
> header. Grouping the problems would work in the NNTP side of the
> newsgroups but on the HTTP they all now fall under the original header
> title.
> ---
> Anne Brown
> Manager, Moderator
> Autodesk Product Support discussion groups
> Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion
*Howe, Graham
Message 10 of 20 (1,019 Views)

Problem: Line Width

12-02-2001 10:13 AM in reply to: *L, Chris
In message <3C0ACA8D.62E5C709@lakefield.net>, Chris L
writes
>Sorry fellas....... "Problems" Posts have been put on hold until I get
>"clearance" from the Tower to continue.
But Chris why didn't you tell them how you really felt :smileywink: - excellent
contribution. BTY I re-read Ad's terms of acceptance in which they
readily acknowledge British law (since I purchased the product in the
UK). Under these circumstances and since they are reported to have
fixed a load of problems in AS8 then a patch release for AS7 should be a
snip and would meet British software product expectations.
--
Graham Howe mail: (ghowe@mcb.net)
Home Web site: http://www.homepages.mcb.net/howe/

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