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    attila_vallyon
    Posts: 180
    Registered: ‎11-03-2009

    Valves on wrong layer

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    03-19-2012 04:14 AM

    Hello!

    Sometimes the valves go on wrong layer. Even if I change the layer of the valve after I isolate that layer the valve disappears. If it would be on different layer. I have to use BEDIT command to edit the valve block, delete the 3D model an replace a new one with 0 layer.

    The 3D solid of a valve has to be on 0 layer within the block. But the P3D assign different layer within the block to that 3D solid.

    Is it a bug?

    Can it be fixed?

    Regards,

    Regards,
    Attila Vallyon
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    dave.wolfe
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    Registered: ‎12-04-2009

    Re: Valves on wrong layer

    03-19-2012 06:40 AM in reply to: attila_vallyon

    You can access layer settings for Plant 3D by going to PROJECTSETUP, Plant 3D DWG Settings > Layer and Color Settings.

     

    Have you set up your layers like you want them to be through this dialog?

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    attila_vallyon
    Posts: 180
    Registered: ‎11-03-2009

    Re: Valves on wrong layer

    03-19-2012 08:15 AM in reply to: dave.wolfe

    Actually I turned off this feature a long time ago.

    I made those custom made valves with custom geometry. Maybe the problem was with the 3D solids. I changed all line properties of the solid (color, linetype, lineweight, material) to ByBlock. Hopefully I won't have this kind of problem anymore.

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    Attila Vallyon
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    milic.srdjan
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    Registered: ‎02-22-2011

    Re: Valves on wrong layer

    03-20-2012 04:09 AM in reply to: attila_vallyon

    We have the same problem. From my experiences in AutoCAD I think that is something with block creation, In catalog with valves.

     

    In our project, problem is with check valves.

     

    I have idea that We must change block with this type of valve directly in folder with block for Plant ...

     

    I must test...

     

    Srdjan.

     

    P.S. idea with layer codification is good, but it seam that doesn't work with some type of valves.

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    attila_vallyon
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    Registered: ‎11-03-2009

    Re: Valves on wrong layer

    03-21-2012 12:57 AM in reply to: milic.srdjan

    Yes, the problem with the valves only. The fittings and tubes are OK.

    I realised that the P3d assigns the pipeline layer within the 3D block to the 3D solid when I insert a new valve. But if I insert the same type and size valve on a different line the layer of the valve solid within the block remains the same. That is the problem.

    Maybe if I insert a valve on the 0 layer the P3d won't assign different layer.

    I will try.

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    Attila Vallyon
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    attila_vallyon
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    Registered: ‎11-03-2009

    Re: Valves on wrong layer

    05-27-2012 02:35 AM in reply to: attila_vallyon

    In the meantime I found a solution.

    Be on the "0" layer always when routing a pipe or inserting a valve block. The software will change the layer automatically according to the line number.

    And when create a new inline element in the cataloge based on custom dwg geometry  set everything to "By block".

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    Attila Vallyon
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