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    JohnHolder
    Posts: 351
    Registered: ‎04-08-2010

    Ortho Issues

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    10-17-2012 04:31 PM

    Another problem....

     

    I have 6 sections of a site.

     

    If I xref them into one drawing ( attachment ) so I can do a single Ortho of the entire site it causes a fatal error

    if I do an ortho of each site individually - no fatal error.

    if I ortho A B C D together - no fatal error

    if I add E or F - fatal error

    if I ortho E and F - no fatal error  *edit* Recover = no errors on all drawings, audit project = no errors in project

     

    cleared graphical cache

    there is no data cache

     

    reciently repaired, re-installed, uninstalled then re-installed.

     

    What I had to do, is ortho each area individually on the same page, then scale them and <move> them so they sat properly. - crappy work around but it sort of works.

     

    Now the client wants me to rearrange 2 systems and a room.....

     

    I open up one of the systems and attempt to move it and machine locks up

    simple window selection ( aprox 1500 objects )  takes 30 seconds to recognize I have selected everything

    then when I attempt to <move> it locks, basically waits an inane amount of time then does nothing.

    I do realize selecting a large group of pipes and equipment can cause a delay - I have done this with 5 to 7000 objects and it takes less time ( which are vastly more complicated )

     

    I am running out of patience.  I must be doing something fundamentally wrong.

     

    Any suggestions? ( at least 20 error reports in today )

     

     

    PS - i really really do not want to redo ALL the piping on this project *again* 

     

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    dave.wolfe
    Posts: 474
    Registered: ‎12-04-2009

    Re: Ortho Issues

    10-18-2012 05:03 AM in reply to: JohnHolder

    Did you try this?

     

    http://www.pdoteam.com/2012/07/large-model-orthos/

    Dave Wolfe
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    JohnHolder
    Posts: 351
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    Re: Ortho Issues

    10-18-2012 09:10 AM in reply to: dave.wolfe

    It crashes on the <Preparing orthographic output> stage only.

    I just tested that, and opening in shaded has never been an issue, even in much larger projects.

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    dave.wolfe
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    Re: Ortho Issues

    10-18-2012 10:44 AM in reply to: JohnHolder

    Have you tried without attaching them all as xrefs?  I don't think the ortho routine is xref dependent. So, as long as you choose the models to include, you should be able to skip the attachment part.

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    JohnHolder
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    Re: Ortho Issues

    10-18-2012 11:14 AM in reply to: dave.wolfe

    Takes an inane amount of time then crashes.

     

    I think there is an undetectable error in larval upweller drawing, since I cannot move any of the piping in the drawing.

     

    I think it is down to deleting it and redoing that part and see if that does it

     

    John.

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    dave.wolfe
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    Re: Ortho Issues

    10-18-2012 11:20 AM in reply to: JohnHolder

    Have you run AUDITPROJECT and PLANTAUDIT (backup first)?

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    JohnHolder
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    Re: Ortho Issues

    10-18-2012 11:30 AM in reply to: dave.wolfe

    yeah fairly often, including trying to recover the drawings.  Always shows up with no errors.

     

    I just deleted all the piping in the drawing that I am unable to move and attempting a new orth of the full site.

     

    still crashes.

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