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    killian.lynch
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    Isometrics - Field Welds - AutoCad Plant 3D 2012

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    04-13-2012 03:05 AM

    I'm trying to change some welds to "Field Fit", it works fine on some services but on others I only get the option of "Field" or "Shop", there is no option for "Field Fit". Any ideas why? I'm also having trouble getting Plant 3D  to break the iso's where I indicate the "Break points". Any hints/tips on creating Iso's would be greatly appreciated.

     

     

    Thanks,

     

    Killian

     

     

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    Re: Isometrics - Field Welds - AutoCad Plant 3D 2012

    08-21-2012 09:37 PM in reply to: killian.lynch
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    Hi There

     

    I am having the exact same problem with the field fit welds and I cannot find any documentation on it. Have you managed to solve this issue?

     

    Kind regards.

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    Re: Isometrics - Field Welds - AutoCad Plant 3D 2012

    08-22-2012 06:32 AM in reply to: tarrynd

    Hi There

     

    This is because of the end type. Only certain end types allow for the Field Fit option. I changed all my Port 2 end types to BV for my flanges so that this option becomes available. It's a pity.

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    Re: Isometrics - Field Welds - AutoCad Plant 3D 2012

    08-22-2012 07:22 AM in reply to: tarrynd

    Field Fit Welds should only apply to Pipe. 

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    Re: Isometrics - Field Welds - AutoCad Plant 3D 2012

    08-22-2012 10:02 AM in reply to: tarrynd

    Are you unable to set the welded end of a flange as field fit? Am I understanding the issue correctly? Is this all flanges, or only some types?



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    Re: Isometrics - Field Welds - AutoCad Plant 3D 2012

    08-22-2012 08:35 PM in reply to: killian.lynch

    The weld between my flange and pipe needs to be a field fit welld. Both of my ports on my pipe are PL. If my flange's end types are set to port1=FL and port2=SO then I do not have the option to change it to a field fir weld, I only have the option of "SHOP" or "FIELD", but if i change the end types of my flange to port1=FL and port2=BV then in my model the "FIELD FIT" option also becomes available. Prior to this I was working with AutoPlant and I was able to change the type of weld no matter what the end types of my flanges (for example) were.

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    Re: Isometrics - Field Welds - AutoCad Plant 3D 2012

    10-02-2012 11:11 PM in reply to: tarrynd

    I have figured out how to add in the Field Fit option. It is all done through the "Project Setup" dialogue box. I navigated to "Plant 3D DWG settings>Plant 3D Class Definitions>Piping and Equipment>Fasteners>Slip On", from there I went to the "Shop_Field" row and changed the default value column From ShopFieldTypes to WeldShopFieldTypes (see attached image). This then gave me the option of Field_Fit in my Model for the specific connector. Unfortunately it does not come through in my Iso with the FFW as well as the correct symbol on the connection. This issue has been logged with Autodesks developement team and hopefully a solution will be provided soon.

     

    Tarryn

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    dave.wolfe
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    Re: Isometrics - Field Welds - AutoCad Plant 3D 2012

    10-03-2012 05:53 AM in reply to: tarrynd

    Did you change the skey for the slip on?

     

    Also, the isoconfig.xml will put in the FFW if the type of the item is: FieldFitWeld, so you may want to modify the Content Iso Symbol Definitions to something like TYPE=FieldFitWeld and it should get called out.

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    Re: Isometrics - Field Welds - AutoCad Plant 3D 2012

    11-09-2012 03:46 AM in reply to: dave.wolfe

    Hi Dave

     

    I didnt change the SKEY. The person I was dealing with at Autdesk came back saying that they were able to re create the issue and it is a bug and has been handed on to the developement team. I havent heard anything since. 

     

    Are you saying that because I changed the "Shop_Field" property I need to now change the SKEY and then change the Content Iso Symbol as well?

     

    Tarryn

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    dave.wolfe
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    Re: Isometrics - Field Welds - AutoCad Plant 3D 2012

    11-09-2012 05:34 AM in reply to: tarrynd

    No, I'm saying that if you want the slip on to be called out as FFW, putting TYPE=FieldFitWeld in the content iso symbol definition will do. The bug is probably that the correct type is not set when the property changes.

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