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User Wish List

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Message 1 of 44
philip
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User Wish List

Not to sure if the powers that be will look at this or not, but thought I would start a user "Wish List" with ideas/thoughts/wishes on how to improve Plant 3D.

Ideas should be hopefully new or improvements on items not pointing out errors in current program. (hopefully AUGI will pick this up at some stage or maybe the community Autodesk is talking about).

Ideas like this.

Cable Trays/Ladders ( working similar to pipes)
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Message 21 of 44
EileenForan
in reply to: philip

All:

The Plant team is very interested in your wish list items. Keep them coming!

We plan to work with this list for our future product development.

Your ideas, solutions, and yes, even gripes are all valuable to us--we want to make a product that you want to use. So don't be shy!

Thanks, Philip, for starting this thread.

Eileen

Eileen Foran
Plant Community Program Manager
Autodesk, Inc.


Eileen Foran
Community Program Manager
Autodesk Plant Solutions
Autodesk, Inc.

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Message 22 of 44
philip
in reply to: philip

Would be nice to have piping & pipe items join when they are within "X" adjustable fuzz factor of each other, i'm getting no joining because i'm sometimes getting thousandths of a mm miss alignment.
Message 23 of 44
Anonymous
in reply to: philip


If you would like to experiment, you can try
setting the offset tolerance in the joint definitions file. This has to be done
manually because the Joints Settings node in Project Setup does not current
expose this property.

 

In your project folder you will find a file named
DefaultConnectorsConfig.xml. Every joint definition includes an XML element for
the offset tolerance. Below is the Buttweld joint definition:

 

  <Joint
Name="Buttweld">
   <FittingElements/>
   <JointElements>
    <JointElement
PartType="Buttweld"/>
   </JointElements>
   <MatchCondition>E1.NominalDiameter=E2.NominalDiameter</MatchCondition>
   <OptionalMatchCondition/>
   <EndConditions1>
    <EndCondition>BV</EndCondition>
    <EndCondition>PL</EndCondition>
   </EndConditions1>
   <EndConditions2>
    <EndCondition>BV</EndCondition>
    <EndCondition>PL</EndCondition>
   </EndConditions2>
   <Description>Welded
joint</Description>
   <SlopeTolerance>3.0</SlopeTolerance>
 
size=3>  <OffsetTolerance>0.0</OffsetTolerance>

  </Joint>

You can change the offset tolerance to a value more
appropriate. This has to be done to each joint definition that you want to give
a fuzz to.

 

DISCLAIMER: Because this setting is not exposed in
the UI, it is possible that it does not work in every scenario as the testing is
limited.

 

Let me know if you do try this whether you
encounter any problems and I will log it in the system for future
improvements.

 

Thanks,

 

Jorge Lopez

Autodesk

 

 

Would be nice to have
piping & pipe items join when they are within "X" adjustable fuzz factor of
each other, i'm getting no joining because i'm sometimes getting thousandths of
a mm miss alignment.
Message 24 of 44
philip
in reply to: philip

Thanks for that will have a play and see how it goes

Cheers Philip
Message 25 of 44

There is a importinventorpart command but there is no exportinventorpart
Message 26 of 44
philip
in reply to: philip

The ablity to change inplace pipe supports with another type (drop down list) the list may show only pipe supports already in the project. Maybe somewhere where you can add standard pipesupport types (within project manager?).
This would also require the SKEY to change also.

This would get rid of the long winded delete and reattached and relocate needed to replace pipesupports currently. Edited by: philip@cosl.co.nz on Feb 10, 2010 2:39 PM
Message 27 of 44
philip
in reply to: philip

not to sure which files are required when sending a P3D model to another person, i'm guessing any user specs etc, are these items going to be added to the Etransmit command? just tried and i had to manualy add the Specs, not to sure what else is needed, but would be nice to have any other files required for P3D to function on another system to be attached also.
Message 28 of 44
Anonymous
in reply to: philip

Philip,

Thanks for your input. I'll make a note of the request for etransmit to
include required Plant 3D files. It's a good topic to look into for a future
release.

In the case of specs, you only need them if you're going to add new piping
components. When you place a component in the model, it is self contained.
It doesn't need the spec to create an iso, show up on a report, etc. We
store links back to the spec so that we can check to see if the spec
changes, but beyond that, it has everything it needs.

Depending on what you're trying to do - (edit the copy of the models and
bring them back, or just review them) will affect what you need. Most likely
the other person will need a copy of the project. This doesn't have to be
transferred each time, but they will need a project to put the drawings in
if they're going to modify them.

You will also may want to include Xrefs. If you're just sending orthos or
isos, you can send them without any other files.

If you want to discuss the hows and whys of transferring files in different
circumstances, perhaps it deserves it's own discussion thread.

Thanks again for your feedback.

Peter Quinn (Autodesk)

wrote in message news:6334321@discussion.autodesk.com...
not to sure which files are required when sending a P3D model to another
person, i'm guessing any user specs etc, are these items going to be added
to the Etransmit command? just tried and i had to manualy add the Specs, not
to sure what else is needed, but would be nice to have any other files
required for P3D to function on another system to be attached also.
Message 29 of 44
philip
in reply to: philip

Conflict dectection would be nice with a fuzz factor to if pipes are getting to close to each other.
Message 30 of 44
Patrick_Aps_9121
in reply to: philip

Snapping included, naturally.
And all other possibilities that you have in NavisWorks Freedom
This would solve a whole bunch of converting issues when migrating or working toghetther with other programs
Message 31 of 44
sreid13
in reply to: philip

The ability to create an assembly of parts similar to Inventor so they can get imported into any drawing like a block.
Message 32 of 44
sreid13
in reply to: philip

Also to be able to have NB for metric in the isometrics. Currently it looks like it mutiplies inches by 25.4 to convert it to mm. For instance a 4" pipe comes out as 102mm instead of 100. Unless there is a switch in isogen that im missing?
Message 33 of 44
Anonymous
in reply to: philip

Sreid,

That's a high priority bug. We know about it and will get it fixed in a
future version.

Peter Quinn (Autodesk)
wrote in message news:6348435@discussion.autodesk.com...
Also to be able to have NB for metric in the isometrics. Currently it looks
like it mutiplies inches by 25.4 to convert it to mm. For instance a 4" pipe
comes out as 102mm instead of 100. Unless there is a switch in isogen that
im missing?
Message 34 of 44
SteveDarvell
in reply to: philip

How about a piping spec/ catalog for instrumentation/ compression fittings such as swagelok or similar.
Message 35 of 44
dracri
in reply to: philip

I know this is about AutoCAD Plant 3D, Bu t will we see anytime soon something like a Revit Plant 3D, as I think it would be a better tool. I am a big fan of Revit MEP, and mostly using it as a 3D tool, much faster and easyer than AutoCAD MEP. Advantages: elevations and sections updtaed in realtime.

Regards,
Dragos
Message 36 of 44
fdsales
in reply to: philip

Como faço para que na lista de materiais apareça quantitativo dos materiais.

Se não é possível fazer isto, fica aqui meu desejo para próxima versão.


AutoCad Plant 3D acabou de chegar no Brasil estou cheio de dúvidas, por favor me ajudem, se alguém puder passar o e-mail para ficar mais fácil a comunicação.

Obrigado a todos.
Filipe Duarte Sales
Brasil

Google Translator:
How do I get the list of materials to quantitative material.

If you can not do this, here is my wish for next version.


AutoCAD Plant 3D has just arrived in Brazil I am full of doubts, please help me, if someone can pass the email to make it easier communication.

Thank you all.
Filipe Duarte Sales
Brazil
Message 37 of 44
carlcheetham
in reply to: philip

1. I'm used to parametric modeling in 3D but I am also used to using Autocad. If the ortho views, annotation, and dimensions could be associative with the source model, that would be a very powerful and time saving tool. The same goes for the ISOGEN drawings. 3D models are never exactly right the first time. Changes in piping sizes, valve types, tag numbers, etc. all should automatically update in the project drawings.
2. The catalogues need to be more comprehensive. I can't even get a large ball valve to show with a gear operator. Yet it is a very common part.
3. In the equipment builder, there needs to be more options for nozzle types. I can't figure out how to have a threaded connection on a typical pressure vessel, yet that is very very common.
4. Some compatibility with Cadworx would be nice. An engineering firm may need to work with both software packages to fullfil a clients needs. In the oil and gas industry, Cadworx is probably main competitor to this Plant 3D program.
Message 38 of 44
dgorsman
in reply to: philip

I don't think there will ever be "dynamic" updates through ISOGEN, simply due to the way it works. The best we could hope for would be Plant3D making use of the repeatability file to maintain a few basic pieces of information.

And point 4 is excellent. These days choosing one piping design program over another automatically excludes compatibility with all others. There is a desperate need for a common data standard in the piping industry (and its *not* PCF/IDF). It would be nice for AutoDesk, as the AutoCAD "host" for several of these programs, to take a leadership role in this.
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Message 39 of 44
philip
in reply to: philip

the ability to rename line numbers under the rename option instead of having to pick all components of a line to put it onto a new line number.
Message 40 of 44

It would be awesome to have the CAD graphic update when we are modifying equipment. True, we can hit the 'Apply' button to see it update the drawing, but a preview would be just that much faster. Plus, this would allow us to see equiptment which we have not inserted into the drawing, BEFORE we insert them for the first time.

Currently in the 'Modify Equipment' window when you click on a Dimension field to edit it, the graphic on the left changes to show a graphic which includes the dim you are changing. What about also highlighting (in the graphic) the actual DIM you are editing (say, highlight in yellow)?

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