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Threaded Valves

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09-25-2012 03:11 PM

Does anyone else have issues with threaded (THRD) valves when piping in Plant 3D 2012? Does anyone know where to download a SPEC that will already have THRD valves ready to go?

 

Issues I am having:

1. No THRD valves (1/4" - 4") ball, check, gate, needle, globe exist in the Spec Editor.

2. When a THRD valve is made (create new component) in the spec editor the following errors occur at random.

     a) Valve does not exist in an iso generated drawing.

     b) Valves do not show up or print in an ortho view generated drawing (top, front or which ever).

     c) Valves do not show up or print if a viewport of the model is clipped in paperspace.

3. Top works for all valves are not easily removed or interchangeable from a handle to gear operated.

4. THRD valve handles default to be much larger then the valve its self.

5. Lug style butterfly valves do not give the option for machine bolts or stud bolts.

6. Lug style butterfly valves do not allow spectacle blinds to be inserted between the (2) RFWN FLG and butterfly valve.

7. 4" THRD FLG. are very difficult to impossible to insert into a model and continue piping.

 

Converting my CADWorx spec in the Spec Editor didn't work there was a weird file it was requesting that I couldn't locate anywhere within CADWorx.

 

Thanks

 

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TomislavGolubovic
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Re: Threaded Valves

09-26-2012 04:54 PM in reply to: littlc

Hopefully I can help:

 

1. No THRD valves (1/4" - 4") ball, check, gate, needle, globe exist in the Spec Editor.

A: You'd need to pull them from the appropriate catalog. Check in the installed Catalogs, or download the right ones from the Plant Exchange website. If they still aren't there, you can make your own.

2. When a THRD valve is made (create new component) in the spec editor the following errors occur at random.

     a) Valve does not exist in an iso generated drawing.

A: Does the valve in the Catalog have an SKEY?

     b) Valves do not show up or print in an ortho view generated drawing (top, front or which ever).

A: Not sure on this one.

     c) Valves do not show up or print if a viewport of the model is clipped in paperspace.

A: Refer above, not sure.

3. Top works for all valves are not easily removed or interchangeable from a handle to gear operated.

A: In 2013, you select the valve then look at the properties, and here you can edit the topworks

4. THRD valve handles default to be much larger then the valve its self.

A: You edit the topworks for the valve in the catalog, or once placed, you can edit the valve and edit the topworks for it, or add a new one.

5. Lug style butterfly valves do not give the option for machine bolts or stud bolts.

A: The bolts are part of the spec, you can set the defaults.

6. Lug style butterfly valves do not allow spectacle blinds to be inserted between the (2) RFWN FLG and butterfly valve.

A: You can add this as a Joint Connection, and then have the right end codes if need be to accommodate this. But it would be a normal type of connection as the spec blinds would be a wafer item, and the two ends of the valve and flange are FL, so a FL-WFL-FL connection is possible.

7. 4" THRD FLG. are very difficult to impossible to insert into a model and continue piping.

A: How so? There are a few wayst to add items, you can run pipe then type "F" to go into the Fittings dialog and add it from there, or run the pipe then select the valve from the Tool Palette and insert it to where you want it to go.



Tomislav Golubovic
Plant Solutions Engineer
Autodesk Australia / New Zealand
Autodesk, Inc.

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