Plant 3D pipe support anchor points

[FNEJR]

On isometrics we have dimensioning pipe support set to Locating type, center...... For us it is meant to dimension inline pipe supports along pipe..... When it come to base ells it creates another dimension line to dimension the pipe supports anchor point which is not the center of the 90, 45 deg ell  or tees..... We would like to leave it set to Location type for pipe supports like base lines, hangers, shoes, etc.... but not dimension base ells or dummy legs.... Base ells have an anchor point between end point of weld on the fitting and center line of fittings which causes another dimension...... Dummy legs create another dimension because its anchor point, no matter size of attachment, is the end of the fitting, so it ends up with a dimension of the take-off of the fitting ie... 4" 90 deg ell = 6".... Base lines are OK reguardless of size of attachment because it only dimensions it to the centerline of the pipe support and not create another dimension.....

[Rich.O.3d]

any chance of getting a screenshot or two showing the results you are getting v what you would like

[Dan.Scales]

Hi,

As Rich has asked in the previous post, a screen capture showing what you require verses what you are currently getting would be useful to troubleshoot this for you.

Thanks,
Dan

[FNEJR]

see PPT attachment

[Rich.O.3d]

Looks like there may be a bug to me!

If i create my own duckfoot out of autocad solids, the connection point is left at the top of the elbow which would give you the result your after (however... when i use this method, the dims are as you would like, but for some reason, the symbol is rotated)

devs????

[Rich.O.3d]

OK...it might help if had applied the supps hotfix properly

ill have another look when ive fixed it up

in the meantime you could do the duckfeet like this:

draw circle at dia of dummy leg in the horizontal plane at the top of the elbow

extrude down to base point of supprt (for visual you can even add the base plate and union with the leg)

then explode the elbow twice to make it a solid then subtract from dummy leg

re-add elbow

then use convert autocad solids to support

for insertion point pick top of elbow

add  to properties (make sure there is no space after the word support)

TYPE=SUPPORT,SKEY=DUCK

sounds long winded but once youve done one the others should go pretty quick (you can copy ones of same size so only need to model each type once)

[Dan.Scales]

Hi,

I don't get the same dimensions as you for the base support.

Is this what you are expecting to see:

Thanks,

Dan

[Rich.O.3d]

Dan...did you make the supp pipe smaller than the pipe run size

when its just like a dummy leg you get that, but when you change the leg size down, it moves the connectionpoint.

[Dan.Scales]

The support leg was 90 and the pipe run 100.

Thanks,

Dan

[Rich.O.3d]

Hi Dan,

The OP had the issue in an imperial project by the looks of the screenshots.

I tested using the sample project, which is imperial also...I wonder if the issue is with the imperial isoconfig files.

could you test with your sample project in imperial units please.

Cheers

Richard

[Dan.Scales]

Hi Rich,

This is from an imperial project:

FNEJR, could you a screen shot showing you isometric dimensioning settings?

Thanks,
Dan

[EricNyh]

This is an old thread, but just wondering if there was a solution to this?

I have a 3" elbow, with a 2" duckfoot support.  On the iso, I'll get a 1-15/16" dimension from the center of the elbow to the top of the duckfoot.  I do not want this 'extra' dimension.

My iso's are set to string dimensioning and I have a stop at the supports.  I'd like to keep this stop as I like to dimension to pipe shoes and such.

Is there a way to keep my string dimensioning but get rid of this extra dimension to the top of the duckfoot?

See attached images.

[PeterQuinn]

What version are you running?

[EricNyh]

P3D 2014 ext.1

[FNEJR]

So it is not fixed in 2014....... If AC decides to resolve this issue just make the connection points for base ells or dummy legs the node\center of the fitting (not the center of the welds)..... Just like pipe the connection point is the center of the pipe regardless of the reduction/size of the base line support and auto iso does not try to dimension from the centerline of pipe\header to the top of the pipe support......

Fred Ellender
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[EricNyh]

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@FNEJR wrote:
...just make the connection points for base ells or dummy legs the node\center of the fitting (not the center of the welds......

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Do this with the iso symbol block?