Integrating Plant 3D and Revit

[cisrael]

I'm new to AP3D and Revit (both are 2010). Also, please keep in mind that I have not received any formal training in either and I am 100% on my own. I have a book that I'm teaching myself on Revit Arch. I can't find a single book on AP3D or tutorials (only videos I've found on the net).

I'm working on a pilot project of a High Service Pump Station. The structural, architectural, HVAC, plumbing, and electrical are all being done in Revit. The process piping and equipment are being done in AP3D. I have the basic building model developed in Revit Arch, the Architectural group will then take it and rebuild it as they need to. I have a basic model layout of the process equipment and piping developed in AP3D.

Now I'm trying to put them together and it's not working out for me. I can get the Revit 3D building model to convert to a dwg and reference that into AP3D. All the properties are lost and it doesn't look as good as I'd like it to. I can link the dwg file into Revit but the piping, fittings, and equipment only show as 3D wireframes. I assume that AP3D's catalog parts are generated as 3D surfaces and not 3D solids. Is this correct?

Can anyone help me out on this? Has anyone completed or is developing a project using both softwares that can contribute some input.

Also, when it comes time to break out sheet files should I use AP3D or Revit? I tried to create some plan and section sheets in AP3D. The plans came out fine but every time I try to create a section view (with the converted Revit building referenced) it crashes every time.

Attached is a shot of the AP3D process piping and equipment linked into Revit.

Any input and thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thanks

[Anonymous]

Cisrael,

I have some suggestions on how to do this.

I think your best best is to convert the Plant 3D model to plain AutoCAD and
the reference that into your Revit model. To do this, open your Plant 3D
model and use the ExportToAutocad command. This will make a new DWG file
that has the Plant 3D graphics as plain AutoCAD solids. Then, open your
Revit model and use the Link to Cad function to reference your new DWG. It
may take some time for it to load, but when it's done, you will see your
Plant 3D model in Revit.

Another way to do it would be to export your Revit model as a SAT (ACIS)
model and then use the Import function to load it into Plant 3D. You could
use the DWG export from Revit instead, but I found the SAT files made better
plan drawings in Plant 3D.

If you're only looking for visualization, review, or clash detection, then
using Navisworks would be your best bet.

Note: In my investigation, I used a beta version of Plant 3D 2011 and the
released version of Revit Structure 2010.

Peter Quinn (Autodesk)

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I'm new to AP3D and Revit (both are 2010). Also, please keep in mind that I
have not received any formal training in either and I am 100% on my own. I
have a book that I'm teaching myself on Revit Arch. I can't find a single
book on AP3D or tutorials (only videos I've found on the net).

I'm working on a pilot project of a High Service Pump Station. The
structural, architectural, HVAC, plumbing, and electrical are all being done
in Revit. The process piping and equipment are being done in AP3D. I have
the basic building model developed in Revit Arch, the Architectural group
will then take it and rebuild it as they need to. I have a basic model
layout of the process equipment and piping developed in AP3D.

Now I'm trying to put them together and it's not working out for me. I can
get the Revit 3D building model to convert to a dwg and reference that into
AP3D. All the properties are lost and it doesn't look as good as I'd like
it to. I can link the dwg file into Revit but the piping, fittings, and
equipment only show as 3D wireframes. I assume that AP3D's catalog parts
are generated as 3D surfaces and not 3D solids. Is this correct?

Can anyone help me out on this? Has anyone completed or is developing a
project using both softwares that can contribute some input.

Also, when it comes time to break out sheet files should I use AP3D or
Revit? I tried to create some plan and section sheets in AP3D. The plans
came out fine but every time I try to create a section view (with the
converted Revit building referenced) it crashes every time.

Attached is a shot of the AP3D process piping and equipment linked into
Revit.

Any input and thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thanks

[cisrael]

Thanks Peter. I found the export to AutoCAD function a little while ago ( I guess I should have mentioned it back in my thread). It worked out nicely. I will also try to export the Revit model out as a SAT and see how that comes in. I have it in the books to get Navisworks too.

Thanks again for your help.