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    Active Contributor
    Posts: 42
    Registered: ‎08-24-2005

    topology and islands

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    06-17-2006 08:57 AM
    Hi all,

    I am wondering if anyone has experience(or a technique) for making a map topology with "islands"? I want to build a topology of a Specific Plan that we are starting to work on and I have a couple of Open Space polygons that have a pedestrian walkway that "cuts" through.

    I have built many topology's but this is a new one to me. I can do it in ARCVIEW, but Autocad Map has a problem with making the "ped" crossing it's own polygon.

    I read on one of the posts that mpolygons are supposed to handle this, problem is you can't export to .shp files with mpoly's.

    Also, is it better to create a topology with polylines or just lines? I didn't know that there would be a difference when you choose between the two.

    Thx a lot,
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    *James Murphy

    Re: topology and islands

    06-18-2006 06:46 PM in reply to: araki5
    Araki,
    Can you provide me a copy "small sample" of the dwg that you are working
    with along with the ArcVeiw shape files of the same and I'll see what can be
    done. Also what are you are your plans on using the topology after you
    create it? There may be another way of getting the results you need
    depending on what it is you want.


    Murph

    cad4703"AT"bellsouth"DOT"net

    wrote in message news:5209989@discussion.autodesk.com...
    Hi all,

    I am wondering if anyone has experience(or a technique) for making a map
    topology with "islands"? I want to build a topology of a Specific Plan that
    we are starting to work on and I have a couple of Open Space polygons that
    have a pedestrian walkway that "cuts" through.

    I have built many topology's but this is a new one to me. I can do it in
    ARCVIEW, but Autocad Map has a problem with making the "ped" crossing it's
    own polygon.

    I read on one of the posts that mpolygons are supposed to handle this,
    problem is you can't export to .shp files with mpoly's.

    Also, is it better to create a topology with polylines or just lines? I
    didn't know that there would be a difference when you choose between the
    two.

    Thx a lot,
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    Active Member
    Posts: 8
    Registered: ‎06-28-2004

    Re: topology and islands

    06-19-2006 06:48 AM in reply to: araki5
    Hi - it sounds like I'm trying to accomplish the same thing...I thought I had it by defining a topology query to exclude any "null" valued polygons...Map gives you the option of writing the result to a new topology. However, when I tried to export the new topology to shp...it exported everything.

    If you come up with an answer...could you let me know?

    Thanks! Deb Murphy - djmurphy@coaxpa.com
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    Active Contributor
    Posts: 42
    Registered: ‎08-24-2005

    Re: topology and islands

    06-19-2006 06:58 AM in reply to: araki5
    Thx Murph
    You're always on the message boards!

    I am trying to do our "usual" way of Specific Plans a little differently; cleaning up and making topologies is not standard around here. The only other guy that cleans maps around here is our "dirt and earthwork" guy and we need that done because one of our "pad makers" utilities needs a clean dwg in order to get volumes.

    I DONT have a shape file for this puppy, basically we digitized this specific plan from a pdf from one of our"partners" and I will export to .shp later once we have "set" acreages and boundaries for the Land Uses. But you know how everything gets changed and moved around.

    I think i read that making islands was fixed in 2006 map3d? Or maybe 2007?

    Please don't rack your brains too much, because I dont absolutely NEED to do this. I'm doing this to see if it is possible, and if we may or may not do this in the future.

    Thx again (do i owe you a beer or something for this one?)

    j/k
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    Registered: ‎08-24-2005

    Re: topology and islands

    06-19-2006 07:00 AM in reply to: araki5
    woops. maybe i should have emailed it to you directly?
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    Registered: ‎08-24-2005

    Re: topology and islands

    06-19-2006 07:03 AM in reply to: araki5
    i think we may have to find some kind of workaround for this puppy.

    i'll be posting any ideas/plans of what i come up with later.

    Thx
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    *Murph

    Re: topology and islands

    06-19-2006 07:05 AM in reply to: araki5
    No promises but I'll take a look and see. I'll pass on the beer maybe a
    gallon of gas for the RV. :smileyhappy:

    Murph
    --
    http://mappingitout.blogspot.com/

    wrote in message news:5210674@discussion.autodesk.com...
    Thx Murph
    You're always on the message boards!

    I am trying to do our "usual" way of Specific Plans a little differently;
    cleaning up and making topologies is not standard around here. The only
    other guy that cleans maps around here is our "dirt and earthwork" guy and
    we need that done because one of our "pad makers" utilities needs a clean
    dwg in order to get volumes.

    I DONT have a shape file for this puppy, basically we digitized this
    specific plan from a pdf from one of our"partner
    s" and I will export to .shp later once we have "set" acreages and
    boundaries for the Land Uses. But you know how everything gets changed and
    moved around.

    I think i read that making islands was fixed in 2006 map3d? Or maybe 2007?

    Please don't rack your brains too much, because I dont absolutely NEED to do
    this. I'm doing this to see if it is possible, and if we may or may not do
    this in the future.

    Thx again (do i owe you a beer or something for this one?)

    j/k
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    *Murph

    Re: topology and islands

    06-19-2006 07:34 AM in reply to: araki5
    Maybe and some info on what is what? Other than the text everything is on
    one layer. What is what or what islands are you wanting to include with what
    polygons etc.

    Murph
    JmurphyATcemcDOTorg = for daytime mail.
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    http://mappingitout.blogspot.com/
    wrote in message news:5210675@discussion.autodesk.com...
    woops. maybe i should have emailed it to you directly?
    Please use plain text.
    *Murph

    Re: topology and islands

    06-19-2006 07:37 AM in reply to: araki5
    Maybe the pdf to give my an ideal of what things are too.

    Murph
    --
    http://mappingitout.blogspot.com/
    wrote in message news:5210675@discussion.autodesk.com...
    woops. maybe i should have emailed it to you directly?
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    Active Contributor
    Posts: 42
    Registered: ‎08-24-2005

    Re: topology and islands

    06-19-2006 09:26 AM in reply to: araki5
    here is a screen of what i'm trying to do. notice the walk way that goes right thru the open space area.
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