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    Problem with tools on palette

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    11-18-2003 11:06 AM
    I am using ABS on a 30 day trial, going through the Tutorial and all's fine. But now I want to make a pallete and include some light fittings provided by a supplier.
    I have created a blank palette and opened design centre to where the aecbContent/devices/lighting-Fluorecsent
    drawing provided by the supplier is located. I select the drawing and right click on the mouse and select create tool palette. All the blocks are inserted into the palette OK. But I get both the -M and -P blocks on the palette so on input into the drawing I only get the 3D block or the plan view symbol which ever is selected.
    When using a standard lighting palette supplied with ABS with similar blocks I just get the plan view symbol showing on the palette. on selection I get the symbol in planview the 3D block only shows when in an isometric view, have I missed a step someware along the way?

    Any help appreciated

    Alan
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    *Andrew

    Re: Problem with tools on palette

    11-18-2003 11:31 PM in reply to: alanball
    Your blocks will need to be set up as device
    styles.The easiest way to learn this is "reverse engineer" what Autodesk already
    set up.  The blocks are located in drawing files in Aecb Content
    4\Electrical\Devices.  Any drawing located in this directory will show up
    when you pick "Add Device" on the Electrical palette.  Open one of the
    drawings.  You will notice all blocks are located in this one file (it
    sounds like you may be to this point already).  Go up to the Format menu
    and pick Style Manager, pick Electrical Objects and then Device Styles. 
    This is where you define which blocks are used in each view, layer key style,
    connectors, etc.


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    I
    am using ABS on a 30 day trial, going through the Tutorial and all's fine. But
    now I want to make a pallete and include some light fittings provided by a
    supplier.
    I have created a blank palette and opened design centre to where
    the aecbContent/devices/lighting-Fluorecsent
    drawing provided by the
    supplier is located. I select the drawing and right click on the mouse and
    select create tool palette. All the blocks are inserted into the palette OK.
    But I get both the -M and -P blocks on the palette so on input into the
    drawing I only get the 3D block or the plan view symbol which ever is
    selected.
    When using a standard lighting palette supplied with ABS with
    similar blocks I just get the plan view symbol showing on the palette. on
    selection I get the symbol in planview the 3D block only shows when in an
    isometric view, have I missed a step someware along the way?

    Any help appreciated

    Alan

    Please use plain text.
    Valued Contributor
    Posts: 78
    Registered: ‎11-20-2003

    Re:

    11-19-2003 03:23 AM in reply to: alanball
    Thanks for that Andrew, Yes I have the drawings located under Content 4 in a sub folder, will see how I go. Thanks again,

    Alan
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    11-19-2003 04:26 AM in reply to: alanball
    Hi Andrew, me again, checked in Style Manger and all the drawings have there Styles set correctly, any other ideas,

    Alan
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    *Andrew

    Re:

    11-19-2003 05:49 AM in reply to: alanball
    Could you post the drawing to customer-files and
    I'll have a look?

     

     


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    Hi
    Andrew, me again, checked in Style Manger and all the drawings have there
    Styles set correctly, any other ideas,

    Alan

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    Valued Contributor
    Posts: 78
    Registered: ‎11-20-2003

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    11-19-2003 10:37 AM in reply to: alanball
    Hi Andrew will post them, but why is my email address showing with my post??
    Please use plain text.
    *Andrew

    Re:

    11-19-2003 10:53 PM in reply to: alanball
    The content drawing looks fine. I read back through
    your original post and I think the problem is you are copying the tools from
    design center to a tool palette.  Electrical devices need to be inserted
    from the "Add Devices" on the electrical palette.  The electrical
    devices need the properties assigned during the insertion process from "Add
    Devices" for them to work properly.  Your process is inserting the devices
    as native autocad blocks.  To illustrate this, insert a device from "Add
    Devices".  Pick the block and you will notice the only grips are where
    connectors are assigned.  Right click on it and you will see option like
    "Circuit Info", "Switch Modify" etc.  These options aren't available with
    regular blocks.
    Explode the device once
    and it becomes an acad block. Explode it again and it becomes individual
    entities.  I hope this helps.


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    Hi
    Andrew will post them, but why is my email address showing with my
    post??
    Please use plain text.
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    Posts: 78
    Registered: ‎11-20-2003

    Re:

    11-20-2003 08:46 AM in reply to: alanball
    Hi Andrew, Yes I think I'm on the write track now. I need to copy an existing tooI to my new palette and then modify the AecbDeviceadd command in the the tools properties box associated with that tool so that I insert the correct symbol library.
    i.e., ^C^C(command "_AecbDeviceAdd" "li" "Switches") with the "Add switch" tool and light fittings with the "Add Device" tool.

    Thanks for all your help.

    Alan
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