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    HVAC Duct Fitting problem

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    06-09-2003 06:14 AM
    When drawing HVAC ductwork I want to use mitered elbows for all 90 deg turns and radiused elbows for non-90 turns. First there is no way that I can tell to do this. Second I typically draw with the mitered elbows and then use duct fitting modify to change the non-90's back to radiused. This worked fine in BS-3. In BS-2004 it will change one elbow to radiused but when I go to change the next one it will convert the first one back to a mitered elbow. This is a bog problem for me. Any solutions to either problem?
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    *[Autodesk], Bo Noren

    Re: HVAC Duct Fitting problem

    06-09-2003 09:51 PM in reply to: cgolden
    Hi,

     

    It is not possible to define different part types
    for different elbow angles in preferences as you want. The problem you have
    found with modifying the elbows seems to be an error when modifying two fittings
    in the same duct run. I have logged it as a defect (DID502815). I haven't found
    any work around for that problem yet:-(

     

    The only tip I can give you is to switch between
    mitered and radius elbow when you are laying out duct work. Click on the arrow
    next to the Preference button in the Add Dashboard to quickly switch
    between different parts. This might not be an acceptable solution for you but it
    is the only one I can think of right now.

     

     

    /Bosse

     


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    When
    drawing HVAC ductwork I want to use mitered elbows for all 90 deg turns and
    radiused elbows for non-90 turns. First there is no way that I can tell to do
    this. Second I typically draw with the mitered elbows and then use duct
    fitting modify to change the non-90's back to radiused. This worked fine in
    BS-3. In BS-2004 it will change one elbow to radiused but when I go to change
    the next one it will convert the first one back to a mitered elbow. This is a
    bog problem for me. Any solutions to either problem?
    Please use plain text.
    *[Autodesk], Kevin Mak

    Re:

    06-10-2003 03:11 AM in reply to: cgolden
    cgolden,

     

    The problem is that when modifying the subtype of a
    fitting, it looks into the preferences and modify the connected fittings
    according to preferences. There is a work-around for
    this:

     

    1. Set your preferences for elbow to "NONE" in
    duct preference

    2. When modify your non-90 degree mitered elbow to
    any other subtype (smooth radius), you will get a prompt "No Default Part has
    been specified for Use in this Situation."

    3. Click "Ignore and Continue" to ignore the
    subsequent modifications on the two sides connecting the elbow (So
    you have to click "Ignore and Continue" twice)

     

    Then your elbow should be modified to smooth
    radius without changing any other elbows in the connected run.

     

    Hope this helps,

     

    Kevin Mak

    [Autodesk, Inc.]

     


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    Hi,

     

    It is not possible to define different part types
    for different elbow angles in preferences as you want. The problem you have
    found with modifying the elbows seems to be an error when modifying two
    fittings in the same duct run. I have logged it as a defect (DID502815). I
    haven't found any work around for that problem yet:-(

     

    The only tip I can give you is to switch between
    mitered and radius elbow when you are laying out duct work. Click on the arrow
    next to the Preference button in the Add Dashboard to quickly switch
    between different parts. This might not be an acceptable solution for you but
    it is the only one I can think of right now.

     

     

    /Bosse

     


    style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    When
    drawing HVAC ductwork I want to use mitered elbows for all 90 deg turns and
    radiused elbows for non-90 turns. First there is no way that I can tell to
    do this. Second I typically draw with the mitered elbows and then use duct
    fitting modify to change the non-90's back to radiused. This worked fine in
    BS-3. In BS-2004 it will change one elbow to radiused but when I go to
    change the next one it will convert the first one back to a mitered elbow.
    This is a bog problem for me. Any solutions to either
    problem?
    Please use plain text.
    New Member
    Posts: 2
    Registered: ‎06-11-2003

    Re:

    06-11-2003 11:54 AM in reply to: cgolden
    Bo & Kevin,

    Thank you both for the help. That is a pretty decent work around. I assume that an update to correct that will amek its way down the pipe sometime in the near future but for now I can get by. Also, just as a suggestion for a future "feature" the ability to specify different elbow fittings for 90 degree turns and non-90 would be very helpful. There are quite a few people out here that use mitered elbows for 90 degree turns but spec radiused elbows for non-90 degree turns.

    Thanks again for the help.

    Chris
    Please use plain text.
    *[Autodesk], Kevin Mak

    Re:

    06-11-2003 10:07 PM in reply to: cgolden
    Chris,

     

    Thank you for your suggestion. It's very
    important for us to know how real-world users want our product to work. We will
    discuss this in the future.

     

    Kevin

    [Autodesk]

     


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    Bo
    & Kevin,

    Thank you both for the help. That is a pretty decent work around. I assume
    that an update to correct that will amek its way down the pipe sometime in the
    near future but for now I can get by. Also, just as a suggestion for a future
    "feature" the ability to specify different elbow fittings for 90 degree turns
    and non-90 would be very helpful. There are quite a few people out here that
    use mitered elbows for 90 degree turns but spec radiused elbows for non-90
    degree turns.

    Thanks again for the help.

    Chris

    Please use plain text.