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Duct Rise & Run

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Anonymous
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Duct Rise & Run

I was wondering if it is possible to draw a duct at 10' elevation and then
specify that I want the duct to rise to 12' elevation and have the duct be
drawn with 15 deg rise (or whatever degree I specify)? When I try doing
this I can get the duct to change elevations but it puts in two 90 deg.
elbows with the duct rise being straight up.
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Message 2 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

On the duct settings dialog box. Lower right hand corner. Check user routing, then define the elbow angle you prefer, 15degrees.
Message 3 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I appreciate the reply,
but I am still not able to do this.  By duct settings dialog box, are you
refering to "Add Ducts" dialog box?  I can set these options in the
dialog box but I don't get the desired result when I try picking points and
changing the duct elevation.  Would you mind sharing the steps you take to
draw this? 


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style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">On
the duct settings dialog box. Lower right hand corner. Check user routing,
then define the elbow angle you prefer, 15degrees.
Message 4 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dave,

 

The best way that I have found to do this is to
draw the duct at your starting elevation of 10' turn your ortho on and copy that
section to the left or right(far enough to show a good sized gap between the
two).  Then move the copied section up 2' to your ending elevation of
12'.  Open your "Add Duct" dialog box and put a check in the "Used routing"
box (make sure that 15º is one of your available angles) start you duct on the
node of your first duct and then snap to the node of the upper duct.  When
asked to connect, do so and if you look at the command line you should be given
the option accept the proposed layout or you can toggle through you options by
choosing next.

 

hope this helps,

 

~Rob


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

I appreciate the
reply, but I am still not able to do this.  By duct settings dialog box,
are you refering to "Add Ducts" dialog box?  I can set these options
in the dialog box but I don't get the desired result when I try picking points
and changing the duct elevation.  Would you mind sharing the steps you
take to draw this? 


face=Arial>
 

 



style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">On
the duct settings dialog box. Lower right hand corner. Check user routing,
then define the elbow angle you prefer,
15degrees.
Message 5 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Yep, it turns out the angle lock does not work when changing elevations. NICE......
Message 6 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks for the reply.  I can get it
to work, but I can't believe it is this difficult to do.  I told the guys
around here that there has to be a toggle or something somewhere that would
allow you to just pick points and then if you change the elevation the program
would either give you the options for the slope of the transition or it would
have been a preset somewhere.  Oh well, maybe in the next
release.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Dave,

 

The best way that I have found to do this is to
draw the duct at your starting elevation of 10' turn your ortho on and copy
that section to the left or right(far enough to show a good sized gap between
the two).  Then move the copied section up 2' to your ending elevation of
12'.  Open your "Add Duct" dialog box and put a check in the "Used
routing" box (make sure that 15º is one of your available angles) start you
duct on the node of your first duct and then snap to the node of the upper
duct.  When asked to connect, do so and if you look at the command line
you should be given the option accept the proposed layout or you can toggle
through you options by choosing next.

 

hope this helps,

 

~Rob


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

I appreciate the
reply, but I am still not able to do this.  By duct settings dialog
box, are you refering to "Add Ducts" dialog box?  I can set these
options in the dialog box but I don't get the desired result when I try
picking points and changing the duct elevation.  Would you mind sharing
the steps you take to draw this? 


face=Arial>
 

 



style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">On
the duct settings dialog box. Lower right hand corner. Check user routing,
then define the elbow angle you prefer,
15degrees.
Message 7 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

What about flipping the UCS and view 90%%d and
drawing it in profile?  Then flip the UCS and view back to plan view and
continue on.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Thanks for the reply.  I can get
it to work, but I can't believe it is this difficult to do.  I told the
guys around here that there has to be a toggle or something somewhere that
would allow you to just pick points and then if you change the elevation the
program would either give you the options for the slope of the transition or
it would have been a preset somewhere.  Oh well, maybe in the next
release.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Dave,

 

The best way that I have found to do this is to
draw the duct at your starting elevation of 10' turn your ortho on and copy
that section to the left or right(far enough to show a good sized gap
between the two).  Then move the copied section up 2' to your ending
elevation of 12'.  Open your "Add Duct" dialog box and put a check in
the "Used routing" box (make sure that 15º is one of your available angles)
start you duct on the node of your first duct and then snap to the node of
the upper duct.  When asked to connect, do so and if you look at the
command line you should be given the option accept the proposed layout or
you can toggle through you options by choosing next.

 

hope this helps,

 

~Rob


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

I appreciate the
reply, but I am still not able to do this.  By duct settings dialog
box, are you refering to "Add Ducts" dialog box?  I can set
these options in the dialog box but I don't get the desired result when I
try picking points and changing the duct elevation.  Would you mind
sharing the steps you take to draw this? 


face=Arial>
 

 



style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">On
the duct settings dialog box. Lower right hand corner. Check user
routing, then define the elbow angle you prefer,
15degrees.
Message 8 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi Dave,

Try this:
1. Start draw a duct segment on elevation 10'
2. Mark 'Use Rise/Run' in the Add Jig. Enter rise/run angle
3. Draw a short duct segment that don't reach elevation 12'
4. Enter elevation 12' in the Add Jig. (The last segment is extended to
reach elevation 12')
5. Mark 'Use Routing' in the Add Jig
6. Enter 'P' at the command 3 times to change plane back to UCS.
7. Continue to draw duct work on elevation 12'

I hope this helps!


/Bosse

"Dave Griffith (Griff)" wrote in message
news:A5C0124D1ECC3062A22419157044329F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I was wondering if it is possible to draw a duct at 10' elevation and then
> specify that I want the duct to rise to 12' elevation and have the duct be
> drawn with 15 deg rise (or whatever degree I specify)? When I try doing
> this I can get the duct to change elevations but it puts in two 90 deg.
> elbows with the duct rise being straight up.
>
>
Message 9 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi, Dave:

Please try following:

ductadd to add a duct segment at 10' \ click Preferences icon \ tab
Rounting, make sure to CLEAR 'Automatically create riser at new Elevation' \
ok to close Duct Layout Preferences \ select 15 degree at Elbow Angle, input
12' at Elevation \ Specify the duct next point.\ now you'll get the duct at
12' with 15 degree rise.

Hope this helps.

Qi Liang


"Dave Griffith (Griff)" wrote in message
news:A5C0124D1ECC3062A22419157044329F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I was wondering if it is possible to draw a duct at 10' elevation and then
> specify that I want the duct to rise to 12' elevation and have the duct be
> drawn with 15 deg rise (or whatever degree I specify)? When I try doing
> this I can get the duct to change elevations but it puts in two 90 deg.
> elbows with the duct rise being straight up.
>
>
Message 10 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

That toggle along with the insulation toggles should be directly within the ductadd dialog box. Instead of having to go through the extra steps of selecting the preferences tab.

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