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    volume calcs within boundaries

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    10-20-2003 10:50 PM
    My company is on the verge of buying LDT 2004 and I have a question regarding capabilities. I am looking at a project that I need to get volumes between two different surfaces in many different areas with separate boundaries. Is there a way to set a boundary so that you only calculate the volumes within a specific area?

    Thanks.

    K. Tyll
    Roux Associates
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    *bouza, Joe

    Re: volume calcs within boundaries

    10-20-2003 11:21 PM in reply to: ktyll
    Hi, Yes. Define all your specific boundaries as LDD
    "Parcels" then you can get total site & parcel volumes.

     

    Joe


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    My
    company is on the verge of buying LDT 2004 and I have a question regarding
    capabilities. I am looking at a project that I need to get volumes between two
    different surfaces in many different areas with separate boundaries. Is there
    a way to set a boundary so that you only calculate the volumes within a
    specific area?

    Thanks.

    K. Tyll
    Roux Associates

    Please use plain text.
    *Boys, Doug

    Re:

    10-21-2003 07:47 PM in reply to: ktyll
    Be careful. Sometimes using Parcels to define volume calculation boundaries
    runs VERY SLOW.

     

    I think it would generally be much faster to use each subarea closed
    polyline boundary as the Outer boundary for one of the surfaces, re-build the
    surface then do volume calcs for the whole Stratum. Then use the next subarea as
    the Outer boundary and repeat.

     

    Doug Boys

    Cardno MBK Brisbane

     
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    *Cannon, Steve

    Re:

    10-22-2003 01:13 AM in reply to: ktyll
    Doug,

    FWIW, Just an added thought...

    Programmatically, one of the biggest stumbling blocks to accurate volumes is
    the vertical boundary clipping planes at the limits of computation. While
    composite volumes seem to do a very good job of dissecting sub-triangles of
    both surfaces at the linear boundary of the controlling surface, Composite
    Parcel sub-volumes are not as accurate. I can demonstrate this by taking a
    site, dividing it into parcels, and summing the individual parcel volumes -
    they will not exactly match the composite calculation done over the entire
    site. I believe this is do to the fact that the triangles are subdivided at
    the time the composite surface is created - in other words, the composite
    surface contains sub-triangles which were cut accurately by the outer
    boundary clipping plane. However, at the time the composite surface is
    created - LDT is not aware of parcel boundaries and therefore can not
    dissect the sub-triangles along parcel boundaries. Subsequent parcel
    boundary computation is based upon that previously computed composite
    surface and therefore needs to 'round' values at the parcel boundary. That
    said and done, for most civil type work the error is going to be
    insignificant (much less than 1%).

    Note also, that as Marv has pointed out several times, you can have LDT
    curved parcel boundaries, but parcel sub-volumes ignore parcel legs that are
    curved and computes the boundary along the long chord - which could add up
    to significant error in some cases.

    sc

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    > Be careful. Sometimes using Parcels to define volume calculation
    boundaries runs VERY SLOW.
    >
    > I think it would generally be much faster to use each subarea closed
    polyline boundary as the Outer boundary for one of the surfaces, re-build
    the surface then do volume calcs for the whole Stratum. Then use the next
    subarea as the Outer boundary and repeat.
    >
    > Doug Boys
    > Cardno MBK Brisbane
    >
    >
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