ROTATE VIEW

[Anonymous]

I know it can be done but dont know how. How do you rotate the view in a
viewport?

--
Ron Williams
MESSINGER & ASSOCIATES
P.O. Drawer 1179
Bastrop, LA 71221
318-281-1636 ext. 13

[Anonymous]

DVIEW > Twist


"Ron Williams" wrote in message
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> I know it can be done but dont know how. How do you rotate the view in a
> viewport?
>
> --
> Ron Williams
> MESSINGER & ASSOCIATES
> P.O. Drawer 1179
> Bastrop, LA 71221
> 318-281-1636 ext. 13
>
>

[Anonymous]

DView twisting works nicely.

enter DView at the command line

select all

hit the enter key

pick the TW option

enter the desired twist angle and hit the enter key.

Your viewport is now twisted.

Jon

(this only works if your viewport isn't locked. Once you have twisted, lock
your viewport again.)

[Anonymous]

I like Ucs/ plan

Joe
"Ron Williams" wrote in message
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> I know it can be done but dont know how. How do you rotate the view in a
> viewport?
>
> --
> Ron Williams
> MESSINGER & ASSOCIATES
> P.O. Drawer 1179
> Bastrop, LA 71221
> 318-281-1636 ext. 13
>
>

[Anonymous]

So do I. Especially with the USC OBJECT option that allow you to align the
UCS to almost any ACAD object. This code for a toolbar button will change
the UCS and rotate to plan view.

^C^CUCS;n;OB;\plan;c;

John Mayo
"Joe bouza" wrote in message
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> I like Ucs/ plan
>
> Joe
> "Ron Williams" wrote in message
> news:E70E25F4CD7E9B1B8E10364FEDDDC4D3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I know it can be done but dont know how. How do you rotate the view in
a
> > viewport?
> >
> > --
> > Ron Williams
> > MESSINGER & ASSOCIATES
> > P.O. Drawer 1179
> > Bastrop, LA 71221
> > 318-281-1636 ext. 13
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

Type command: MVSETUP; then Align, Rotate View

[Anonymous]

how about a lip routine


"Ron Williams" wrote in message
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> I know it can be done but dont know how. How do you rotate the view in a
> viewport?
>
> --
> Ron Williams
> MESSINGER & ASSOCIATES
> P.O. Drawer 1179
> Bastrop, LA 71221
> 318-281-1636 ext. 13
>
>

[Anonymous]

Thanks, John

"John Mayo" wrote in message
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> So do I. Especially with the USC OBJECT option that allow you to align the
> UCS to almost any ACAD object. This code for a toolbar button will change
> the UCS and rotate to plan view.
>
> ^C^CUCS;n;OB;\plan;c;
>
> John Mayo
> "Joe bouza" wrote in message
> news:E3F233C1568F413F8181404956DE9273@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I like Ucs/ plan
> >
> > Joe
> > "Ron Williams" wrote in message
> > news:E70E25F4CD7E9B1B8E10364FEDDDC4D3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > I know it can be done but dont know how. How do you rotate the view
in
> a
> > > viewport?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ron Williams
> > > MESSINGER & ASSOCIATES
> > > P.O. Drawer 1179
> > > Bastrop, LA 71221
> > > 318-281-1636 ext. 13
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

But can you set it up so that blocks and text that are inserted afterward
are aligned to the viewport and not North? (this is a constant problem, I
intuitively know there is a solution, but I haven't had the time to find
it).

Jon

[Anonymous]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:57:46 -0700, JSchmidt wrote:

> But can you set it up so that blocks and text that are inserted afterward
> are aligned to the viewport and not North? (this is a constant problem, I
> intuitively know there is a solution, but I haven't had the time to find
> it).
>
> Jon

Use UCS VIEW before inserting blocks and text.

[Anonymous]

Trying to avoid changing the UCS (we have enough people without a firm basis
in AutoCAD that I don't want to introduce any opportunity for things to go
wrong).

Any other ideas?

Jon

[Anonymous]

If you insist that everybody keeps their UCSICON on at all times, and stays
aware of what it means and what it needs to look like, it should help cut
down on problems.

No UCSICON means no visual feedback, and that is dangerous.

If all views of the drawing are to remain permanently rotated, then I would
suggest using a North Rotation. This way, the UCS stays as world, and all
LDD commands work properly.

There have been many discussions about NR. There are even "Whitepapers" out
there detailing how to do it properly.
Just my $0.02.

-Max-

"JSchmidt" wrote in message
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> Trying to avoid changing the UCS (we have enough people without a firm
basis
> in AutoCAD that I don't want to introduce any opportunity for things to go
> wrong).
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Jon
>
>

[Anonymous]

The problem with the BPNR option is that we are using multiple survey
packages, some of our people are using LDD, so are using a third party
package. That's where we run into the problem, the third party package
recognizes that there is a rotation, but the only way it can deal with it is
to rotate it back to the original. That just doesn't work out very well
when you have multiple people working on the same drawing. Since there is
not a consensus in the upper management on which software package to use, we
have drawings that can not be used, without some possible major
complications, by a little less than half of my department.

Very frustrating to try to explain to the non-savy user why the points are
appearing in substantially different areas than expected.

[Anonymous]

I do not envy your situation.

"JSchmidt" wrote in message
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> The problem with the BPNR option is that we are using multiple survey
> packages, some of our people are using LDD, so are using a third party
> package. That's where we run into the problem, the third party package
> recognizes that there is a rotation, but the only way it can deal with it
is
> to rotate it back to the original. That just doesn't work out very well
> when you have multiple people working on the same drawing. Since there is
> not a consensus in the upper management on which software package to use,
we
> have drawings that can not be used, without some possible major
> complications, by a little less than half of my department.
>
> Very frustrating to try to explain to the non-savy user why the points are
> appearing in substantially different areas than expected.
>
>

[Mehlhop]

Idle curiosity at this point...What third party softwares are being used? Is there any ability with in those programs to handle their particular facet of the problem? Don't take this wrong but it sounds you're looking for an end result solution without going backwards to the initial possible problems. Using third party programs always make life more difficult because now there is a whole new set of issues to work through that require someone to be completely knowledgeable of both programs.

Jason Mehlhop
Freelance AutoCAD User & Customizer
jasonmehlhop@adelphia.net

[Anonymous]

>Using third party programs always make life more difficult because now
there >is a whole new set of issues to work through that require someone to
be >completely knowledgeable of both programs.

And here we have the crux of the problem.  We
don't have any one person who is well versed in both products.

SurvCAD by Carlson is the third party
product.  In and of itself it is an excellent product, I don't like the way
it handles certain things (like points), but it handles survey specific issues
(like traverse reduction and field to finish line work) far better than the LDD
Survey package.

The big problem I have is that I am the resident
computer wonk and I end up having to figure out how to fix it when
competing software packages don't work and play well
together.

The biggest issue between the two programs is the
BPNR ability in LDD, SurvCad sees it when a drawing is opened, asks if you want
to translate/rotate to north at the proper coordinates.  If you say yes it
will move all of the AutoCAD entities, but leave the BPNR settings as they
were.  Then any calculations will be done with AutoCAD coordinates, not the
LDD BPNR coords.  So all of the work done is in the right place in relation
the AutoCAD version of North, but not LDD's.  I know there are obvious ways
around this issue, like adopting a single software standard, or rotating back to
the BPNR, but there is strong resistance on both sides to solving this problem
in favor of either product.

So I just thought I would bitch a little, I don't
think anyone is going to come up with an easy solution for this.  I am
trying to figure out a macro that will help avoid the major issues,
but it's going to take a while.  Like I said just thought I would
bitch to a sympathetic ear.

Thanks,

Jon

[Anonymous]

I have used north rotation, and dview twist. They each have their uses. At the moment I prefer to set up a ucs based on 3 points and using ucsfollow save the view at that rotaion. I then return to world ucs and turn off ucsfollow. In paper space I make the view current. I believe it has the effect as dview twist but is easier to follow for a different user. Especially if you save the the view ucs with a name that can be recognized. You can enter blocks and text at the view "0" rotation, but LDDT comands do not work, and I believe that the canned North arrow will insert straight up not in the correct rotation, but that can be fixed.