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‎10-13-2004 02:33 PM
‎10-13-2004 02:33 PM

Is there a way?

Is there a way to create LDD points with VBA or LISP? Even better if it can be done in vanilla AutoCAD Bean -- AddonICAD CAD Enhancements for lusers www.bentpen.com
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Anonymous
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‎10-13-2004 02:33 PM
‎10-13-2004 02:33 PM

Hi, Yes - both, as well as numerous other methods. Vanilla AutoCAD - no way as it has no tools to interact with the points database. -- Laurie Comerford CADApps www.cadapps.com.au "Bean Saladhead" wrote in message news:416d9ef8_1@newsprd01... > Is there a way to create LDD points with VBA or LISP? Even better if it can > be done in vanilla AutoCAD > > > Bean > -- > AddonICAD > CAD Enhancements for lusers > www.bentpen.com > >
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‎10-13-2004 02:45 PM
‎10-13-2004 02:45 PM

There's a point.add method, but you can't do it without the LDT object model. Deja vu. -- James Wedding, P.E. IT Manager Jones & Boyd, Inc. Dallas, TX XP/2 on P4-3.4/1G LDT2005+C3D http://au.autodesk.com Sign up now for AU2004!
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‎10-13-2004 02:46 PM
‎10-13-2004 02:46 PM

"James Wedding" wrote in message news:416da1d8$1_1@newsprd01... > There's a point.add method, but you can't do it without the LDT object > model. ...or put in a block, with attributes, then have Land read them. (Depends on the situation, of course.........just a thought for the original poster)
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‎10-13-2004 02:52 PM
‎10-13-2004 02:52 PM

Trust me, he's looking to create AEC_Points without actually having LDT. Even if you make the point itself, it's dumb, and you'd have to have LDT to get the mdb files reconciled with the dwg. -- James Wedding, P.E. IT Manager Jones & Boyd, Inc. Dallas, TX XP/2 on P4-3.4/1G LDT2005+C3D http://au.autodesk.com Sign up now for AU2004!
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‎10-13-2004 03:00 PM
‎10-13-2004 03:00 PM

Oh come on Bean - the answer is in google ;>) Bruce "Bean Saladhead" wrote in message news:416d9ef8_1@newsprd01... > Is there a way to create LDD points with VBA or LISP? Even better if it can > be done in vanilla AutoCAD > > > Bean > -- > AddonICAD > CAD Enhancements for lusers > www.bentpen.com > >
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‎10-13-2004 04:17 PM
‎10-13-2004 04:17 PM

Bean Saladhead wrote: > Is there a way to create LDD points with VBA or LISP? Yes. > Even better if it can be done in vanilla AutoCAD Yes, as long as the Object Enabler is installed. Of course we are talking about creating AECC_POINT objects in the drawing database only. If you want to update the LDT point database, you would have to write additional code to read/write the MDB directly.
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‎10-13-2004 04:38 PM
‎10-13-2004 04:38 PM

"James Wedding" wrote in message news:416da399$1_1@newsprd01... > Trust me, he's looking to create AEC_Points without actually having LDT. I can't dispute that. Twas a vague request. > Even if you make the point itself, it's dumb, and you'd have to have LDT to > get the mdb files reconciled with the dwg. RK's post leads me to believe that a bit of ADO may take care of that just fine. (I'm not suggested I'd recommend it, instead of buying LDD, I believe there may be a way.)
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‎10-13-2004 05:02 PM
‎10-13-2004 05:02 PM

On 10/13/2004 6:38 PM TomD wrote: > RK's post leads me to believe that a bit of ADO may take care of that just > fine. (I'm not suggested I'd recommend it, instead of buying LDD, I believe > there may be a way.) > As I mentioned, I'm positive about the creation of AECC_POINT objects. Reading/writing the MDB should be able to be done, but I've never done this personally.
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‎10-13-2004 05:10 PM
‎10-13-2004 05:10 PM

"R.K. McSwain" wrote in message news:416dc103$1_3@newsprd01... > On 10/13/2004 6:38 PM TomD wrote: > > RK's post leads me to believe that a bit of ADO may take care of that just > > fine. (I'm not suggested I'd recommend it, instead of buying LDD, I believe > > there may be a way.) > > > > As I mentioned, I'm positive about the creation of AECC_POINT objects. > Reading/writing the MDB should be able to be done, but I've never done > this personally. I'm sure I can handle that part, I wasn't sure of the point part. 😉
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‎10-14-2004 08:41 AM
‎10-14-2004 08:41 AM

Yes, via 3rd party programs. "Bean Saladhead" wrote in message news:416d9ef8_1@newsprd01... > Is there a way to create LDD points with VBA or LISP? Even better if it can > be done in vanilla AutoCAD > > > Bean > -- > AddonICAD > CAD Enhancements for lusers > www.bentpen.com > >
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‎10-14-2004 01:10 PM
‎10-14-2004 01:10 PM

Hi, If Land Desktop Points are required, the best way is to write them directly to the database with either ADO or DAO. You can then allow Land Desktop to manage what you choose to display in the drawing. All you need do is find the appropriate values to put in the MSK field and the STT field. For the STT field I believe 1 is normal and 3 implies the point has been erased. For the MSK field the Tutorial 1 project has all values of 1057, so I guess that would be safe. The other 6 fields are obvious PNO - Point Number - necessary and must be unique NAM - for point name - Leave blank DSC - Description - can be blank NTH - North - Necessary to have any meaning EST - East - Necessary to have any meaning ELV - Elevation - can be blank Creation of Point groups during this process is a breeze. -- Laurie Comerford CADApps www.cadapps.com.au "TomD" wrote in message news:416dc3e4_1@newsprd01... > "R.K. McSwain" wrote in message > news:416dc103$1_3@newsprd01... > > On 10/13/2004 6:38 PM TomD wrote: > > > RK's post leads me to believe that a bit of ADO may take care of that > just > > > fine. (I'm not suggested I'd recommend it, instead of buying LDD, I > believe > > > there may be a way.) > > > > > > > As I mentioned, I'm positive about the creation of AECC_POINT objects. > > Reading/writing the MDB should be able to be done, but I've never done > > this personally. > > I'm sure I can handle that part, I wasn't sure of the point part. ;) > >
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‎10-14-2004 01:12 PM
‎10-14-2004 01:12 PM

Hi, Are you sure the Object Enabler allows you to create Point Objects in otherwise vanilla AutoCAD ? I have no way of testing this as I don't have access to a vanilla AutoCAD, but I would expect that it was not possible. -- Laurie Comerford CADApps www.cadapps.com.au "R.K. McSwain" wrote in message news:416db707$1_1@newsprd01... > Bean Saladhead wrote: > > > Is there a way to create LDD points with VBA or LISP? > > Yes. > > > Even better if it can be done in vanilla AutoCAD > > Yes, as long as the Object Enabler is installed. Of course we are > talking about creating AECC_POINT objects in the drawing database only. > If you want to update the LDT point database, you would have to write > additional code to read/write the MDB directly. >
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‎10-14-2004 03:25 PM
‎10-14-2004 03:25 PM

"Laurie Comerford" wrote in message news:416ee820_2@newsprd01... > Hi, > > If Land Desktop Points are required, the best way is to write them directly > to the database with either ADO or DAO. You can then allow Land Desktop to > manage what you choose to display in the drawing. > > All you need do is find the appropriate values to put in the MSK field and > the STT field. > For the STT field I believe 1 is normal and 3 implies the point has been > erased. > For the MSK field the Tutorial 1 project has all values of 1057, so I guess > that would be safe. > The other 6 fields are obvious > PNO - Point Number - necessary and must be unique > NAM - for point name - Leave blank > DSC - Description - can be blank > NTH - North - Necessary to have any meaning > EST - East - Necessary to have any meaning > ELV - Elevation - can be blank Thanks, Laurie, for the detailed info.
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‎10-14-2004 05:33 PM
‎10-14-2004 05:33 PM

On 10/14/2004 3:12 PM Laurie Comerford wrote: > Hi, > > Are you sure the Object Enabler allows you to create Point Objects in > otherwise vanilla AutoCAD ? Yes.
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