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Anonymous
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Hourglass when entering layer drop down

Just recently I encountered a issue with LDDT 2008 tossing up an hourglass whenever I mouse over the layer drop down tool bar. This happens after about 2+/- hours of use and prior to me loading up a drawing with a project (but it has happened before when working with projects in profiles, ect).

If I do nothing and continue to work with it like that it will eventually fatal error with what my dealer says is a memory error. If I immediately reboot I can sometimes go the rest of the day before having this happen again but sometimes I have it happen several times a day. This is on several machines (different installs) here at our office also.

Upon getting the hour glass I ctrl/alt/del and my system resources show I have a little over a gig of unused memory in a system with 2 gigs of memory overall.

To me is seems like a memory leak with LDD but I am not sure. Can anyone suggest possible issues I can look at to solve this problem with our systems? We run XP Pro with AMD 64 4000+ (939) with 2 gigs matched Kingston ram (PC3200), WD raptor HD's in a Shuttle system case. Not sure if any of that info. helps but figured it couldn't hurt.

Thanks

Matt
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Message 2 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Try to cleanup unused layer states & filters. Make sure all layers are
Reconciled. See if that helps.

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
wrote in message news:5651173@discussion.autodesk.com...
Just recently I encountered a issue with LDDT 2008 tossing up an hourglass
whenever I mouse over the layer drop down tool bar. This happens after
about 2+/- hours of use and prior to me loading up a drawing with a project
(but it has happened before when working with projects in profiles, ect).

If I do nothing and continue to work with it like that it will eventually
fatal error with what my dealer says is a memory error. If I immediately
reboot I can sometimes go the rest of the day before having this happen
again but sometimes I have it happen several times a day. This is on
several machines (different installs) here at our office also.

Upon getting the hour glass I ctrl/alt/del and my system resources show I
have a little over a gig of unused memory in a system with 2 gigs of memory
overall.

To me is seems like a memory leak with LDD but I am not sure. Can anyone
suggest possible issues I can look at to solve this problem with our
systems? We run XP Pro with AMD 64 4000+ (939) with 2 gigs matched Kingston
ram (PC3200), WD raptor HD's in a Shuttle system case. Not sure if any of
that info. helps but figured it couldn't hurt.

Thanks

Matt
Message 3 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I can try to do that in some of our more complicated drawings however the drawing that this happened to this morning had no layer states and 20 layers in it. It was a very clean drawing. In the past I had even tried to recover drawings that didn't need recovered just to see if there was something corrupt in them and it didn't help.

It also seems very random but is def. a 2008 issue as we can move around in the same drawings all day in 2007 and not have one issue. Sure we could just keep using 2007 but after paying 8 billion dollars in yearly subscriptions to Autodesk it would be nice to use the latest and greatest! 😛

Matt
Message 4 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I've actually had the hourglass-icon-in-layer-pulldown problem since 2005
(off and on). I now have a brand new computer with a clean 2008-only install
and it is still there (sometimes). Never could figure out what triggers it.

Usually reloading the session clears it, and i haven't noticed any crashes
relating to it, but now i will pay closer attention.

--
(email addy is bogus, do not use unless you want to spam the gov't agency
that monitors spam)
Doug K
Windows XP Pro SP2
LandDesktop 2008
HP Compaq dc7700p Convertible
Intel Dual Core 6400 @ 2.13GHz
2G Ram, 232 GB HD
ATI Radeon X1600 256MB
Dual 19" Dell Monitors
Kensington Trackball (left-handed)


wrote in message news:5651233@discussion.autodesk.com...
I can try to do that in some of our more complicated drawings however the
drawing that this happened to this morning had no layer states and 20 layers
in it. It was a very clean drawing. In the past I had even tried to
recover drawings that didn't need recovered just to see if there was
something corrupt in them and it didn't help.

It also seems very random but is def. a 2008 issue as we can move around in
the same drawings all day in 2007 and not have one issue. Sure we could
just keep using 2007 but after paying 8 billion dollars in yearly
subscriptions to Autodesk it would be nice to use the latest and greatest!
:-P

Matt
Message 5 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Same here, except it is almost always an hourglass. Since it's usually like
that I've never thought of it as being the subject of crashes. Oh, and it's
like this in C3D for me as well.


"DougK" wrote in message
news:5651342@discussion.autodesk.com...
I've actually had the hourglass-icon-in-layer-pulldown problem since 2005
(off and on). I now have a brand new computer with a clean 2008-only install
and it is still there (sometimes). Never could figure out what triggers it.
Message 6 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Jeff Mishler wrote:
> Same here, except it is almost always an hourglass. Since it's usually like
> that I've never thought of it as being the subject of crashes. Oh, and it's
> like this in C3D for me as well.

Ditto. I'd hazard a guess that the crash is unrelated to the hourglass.

--
Jason Hickey

Civil 3D 2008
Dell Precision M70
2 GIG RAM, 256 MB nVidia Quadro FX Go1400
Intel Centrino 2 gHz Processor

www.civil3d.com
Message 7 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Well if the hourglass issue isn't related to the crash it is def. related to 2008. Our machines never display any instabilities doing anything else, I have yet to find any other application that will crash our machines and it only crashes after the hourglass appears. Very strange stuff... So far 2006 & 2007 LDDT & 2007 C3D all seem to work flawless on our systems. Maybe I am expecting to much before the first major service pack... Oh wait this is Autodesk not Microsoft!

Matt
Message 8 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Upgrade to Vista and the hour glass will be gone.
It will be a rolling donut but something different anyway.;-)
Message 9 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hahaha!
Message 10 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Yeah - we have the hourglass a bunch of times in LDT2005. 'Sorry to hear
we'll probably still be dealing with it in LDT2008...

John

"DougK" wrote in message
news:5651342@discussion.autodesk.com...
I've actually had the hourglass-icon-in-layer-pulldown problem since 2005
(off and on). I now have a brand new computer with a clean 2008-only install
and it is still there (sometimes). Never could figure out what triggers it.

Usually reloading the session clears it, and i haven't noticed any crashes
relating to it, but now i will pay closer attention.
Message 11 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

This happens after going into the hatch command, using the custom pattern
selection dialog box.
Done it since 2005 at least.


wrote in message news:5651173@discussion.autodesk.com...
Just recently I encountered a issue with LDDT 2008 tossing up an hourglass
whenever I mouse over the layer drop down tool bar. This happens after
about 2+/- hours of use and prior to me loading up a drawing with a project
(but it has happened before when working with projects in profiles, ect).

If I do nothing and continue to work with it like that it will eventually
fatal error with what my dealer says is a memory error. If I immediately
reboot I can sometimes go the rest of the day before having this happen
again but sometimes I have it happen several times a day. This is on
several machines (different installs) here at our office also.

Upon getting the hour glass I ctrl/alt/del and my system resources show I
have a little over a gig of unused memory in a system with 2 gigs of memory
overall.

To me is seems like a memory leak with LDD but I am not sure. Can anyone
suggest possible issues I can look at to solve this problem with our
systems? We run XP Pro with AMD 64 4000+ (939) with 2 gigs matched Kingston
ram (PC3200), WD raptor HD's in a Shuttle system case. Not sure if any of
that info. helps but figured it couldn't hurt.

Thanks

Matt
Message 12 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Verified! But there must be something else too, since I rarely use the
custom patterns.


"Rob" wrote in message
news:5654025@discussion.autodesk.com...
This happens after going into the hatch command, using the custom pattern
selection dialog box.
Done it since 2005 at least.
Message 13 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You dont have to use a custom pattern.
Just opening that dialog box is enough to cause the hourglass to showup.
If I remember correctly, that will continue to happen throught the entire
acad session, drawing after drawing.
Closing acad and restarting the program was the method to clear the
hourglass.

"DougK" wrote in message
news:5654101@discussion.autodesk.com...
Verified! But there must be something else too, since I rarely use the
custom patterns.


"Rob" wrote in message
news:5654025@discussion.autodesk.com...
This happens after going into the hatch command, using the custom pattern
selection dialog box.
Done it since 2005 at least.
Message 14 of 19
nate_evans79
in reply to: Anonymous

I had the same hour glass problem even when i was working in LDD 2004, it never seemed to cause any other problems, that i noticed anyhow. But its definatly not a new problem.
Message 15 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Which version did this bug start?

Can we get a LDD3?

Going once...Going twice.....



wrote in message news:5654188@discussion.autodesk.com...
I had the same hour glass problem even when i was working in LDD 2004, it
never seemed to cause any other problems, that i noticed anyhow. But its
definatly not a new problem.
Message 16 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Nope, I've never seen it in LDT3...and I still use it so it's not a
forgotten memory.

"Rob" wrote in message
news:5654343@discussion.autodesk.com...
Which version did this bug start?

Can we get a LDD3?

Going once...Going twice.....



wrote in message news:5654188@discussion.autodesk.com...
I had the same hour glass problem even when i was working in LDD 2004, it
never seemed to cause any other problems, that i noticed anyhow. But its
definatly not a new problem.
Message 17 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Go to R.K.'s blog.

http://rkmcswain.blogspot.com/2007/07/tracking-down-why-that-application-is.html

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"DougK" wrote in message
news:5654101@discussion.autodesk.com...
Verified! But there must be something else too, since I rarely use the
custom patterns.


"Rob" wrote in message
news:5654025@discussion.autodesk.com...
This happens after going into the hatch command, using the custom pattern
selection dialog box.
Done it since 2005 at least.
Message 18 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I don't recall this in R3. I think it was 05 or 06 but I also think many of
those instances were due to large layer filter lists. I think the users
complained about long lag times going into the layer dropdown & long lags
getting into the layer manager. A good search through the NG would answer
the question. Gotta get back to work right now.

--
John Mayo
Project Engineer
Conklin Associates
Ramsey, NJ

Civil 3D 2008, LDT 2008, Raster Design 2008
P-IV at 3.5 GHz
2 GB Ram
Nvidea Quadro FX w/ 128 MB Ram
"Jeff Mishler" wrote in message
news:5654354@discussion.autodesk.com...
Nope, I've never seen it in LDT3...and I still use it so it's not a
forgotten memory.

"Rob" wrote in message
news:5654343@discussion.autodesk.com...
Which version did this bug start?

Can we get a LDD3?

Going once...Going twice.....



wrote in message news:5654188@discussion.autodesk.com...
I had the same hour glass problem even when i was working in LDD 2004, it
never seemed to cause any other problems, that i noticed anyhow. But its
definatly not a new problem.
Message 19 of 19
tkengineer
in reply to: Anonymous

Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I have a brand new computer, loaded with memory and processing capability, and have installed a brand new version of AutoCAD Civil 3D 2014 and I still have the hourglass problem (rolling doughnut).  Upgrading doesn't solve the issue.

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