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engineerandy
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎11-12-2007
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Description Keys - Lines dont Finish and Text After the Description

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02-26-2008 11:22 AM
I am having a problem figuring out how to get the desc. key to finish drawing a line when another point description is collected just before the original line has ended (i.e. you collect a back of curb, and then a edge of pavement, then you end the back of curb and the line does not connect to the last point).

Also for points that extra descriptions are given for (i.e. FL 4', where the description key is FL*) are connected in the order the points are collected not by the description key. For example you collect a fence line as FL 4' and then collect a ground shot, then continue the fence. This causes the line to connect from the fence to the ground shot and back to the fence.
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stacy.dunn
Posts: 34
Registered: ‎09-11-2006
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Re: Description Keys - Lines dont Finish and Text After the Description

02-26-2008 01:50 PM in reply to: engineerandy
There can be a couple of reasons the lines aren't being drawn. It would be helpful if you could post the raw data and the fieldbook files.
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engineerandy
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Re: Description Keys - Lines dont Finish and Text After the Description

02-27-2008 05:23 AM in reply to: engineerandy
For some reason it will not allow me to attach any of the files. In the Field book file the last shot on a line is being put in the wrong section, that is the cause for the line not finishing. I am just unsure how it needs to be coded in order for the line to continue to the end. The same problem in the field book is happening for the description key with a note after.
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stacy.dunn
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Re: Description Keys - Lines dont Finish and Text After the Description

02-27-2008 05:33 AM in reply to: engineerandy
Are you putting the linework codes in a note field or are you including the linework code in the description?

If you can't upload the file, try copy and paste into your post.
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engineerandy
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Re: Description Keys - Lines dont Finish and Text After the Description

02-27-2008 05:53 AM in reply to: engineerandy
The codes are in the description. The problem comes when we want to add notes in the description (i.e. B FL 4', FL 4', ...) the note in the description that describes the fence as a 4' fence causes the linework follow the order the shots were taken in not the description key.
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stacy.dunn
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Re: Description Keys - Lines dont Finish and Text After the Description

02-27-2008 06:51 AM in reply to: engineerandy
Here is an example of the description coding we use:

B FL4FT
FL4FT
NG
NG
FL4FT
FL4FT
B EOC
NG
EOC
EOC
B EOC1
FL4FT
NG
EOC1
EOC
C3 EOC1
EOC1
EOC1
C3 EOC1
EOC1
EOC1
EOC1
END EOC1
FL4FT
END FL4FT

The codes should then be converted (by survey link) to the following fieldbook


BEG FL4FT
NE SS 14386 5192.24141 11767.05874 427.82220 "FL4FT"
NE SS 14387 5173.59184 11776.36453 427.62366 "FL4FT"
END
NE SS 14388 5173.28183 11777.07624 426.01936 "NG"
NE SS 14389 5167.63959 11765.65160 426.29809 "NG"
CONT FL4FT
NE SS 14390 5168.32991 11765.94679 427.58656 "FL4FT"
NE SS 14391 5172.97677 11763.74322 427.44851 "FL4FT"
BEG EOC
NE SS 14392 5173.03292 11763.72211 427.44961 "EOC"
END
NE SS 14393 5172.83821 11763.00786 426.37133 "NG"
CONT EOC
NE SS 14394 5175.92156 11769.07448 426.84566 "EOC"
NE SS 14395 5175.92625 11769.70832 427.55813 "EOC"
BEG EOC1
NE SS 14396 5175.48373 11768.75875 427.55500 "EOC1"
CONT FL4FT
NE SS 14397 5189.91250 11762.48580 427.82987 "FL4FT"
END
NE SS 14398 5195.24751 11758.87449 426.25789 "NG"
CONT EOC1
NE SS 14399 5195.38915 11758.67562 426.66911 "EOC1"
CONT EOC
NE SS 14400 5193.37630 11753.11706 426.60643 "EOC"
CONT EOC1
C3
NE SS 14401 5219.27603 11751.51808 426.07357 "EOC1"
NE SS 14402 5220.43478 11751.64615 426.07355 "EOC1"
NE SS 14403 5220.70498 11753.27128 426.07280 "EOC1"
CONT EOC1
C3
NE SS 14404 5219.57300 11757.59810 426.00060 "EOC1"
NE SS 14405 5218.78182 11759.32181 426.00121 "EOC1"
NE SS 14406 5208.78182 11759.32181 426.00121 "EOC1"
NE SS 14407 5198.78182 11759.32181 426.00121 "EOC1 "
NE SS 14408 5188.78182 11759.32181 426.00121 "EOC1"
END EOC1
CONT FL4FT
NE SS 14409 5217.36802 11760.22992 426.00122 "FL4FT"
NE SS 14410 5225.49225 11758.25213 426.00055 "FL4FT"
END FL4FT

If you add spaces to the codes (FL 4FT) you will get the following:

BEG FL
NE SS 14386 5192.24141 11767.05874 427.82220 "4FT"
CONT FL
NE SS 14387 5173.59184 11776.36453 427.62366 "FL 4FT"
CONT FL
NE SS 14388 5173.28183 11777.07624 426.01936 "NG"
NE SS 14389 5167.63959 11765.65160 426.29809 "NG"
CONT FL
NE SS 14390 5168.32991 11765.94679 427.58656 "FL 4FT"
CONT FL
CONT FL
NE SS 14391 5172.97677 11763.74322 427.44851 "FL 4FT"
CONT FL
BEG EOC
NE SS 14392 5173.03292 11763.72211 427.44961 "EOC"
END
NE SS 14393 5172.83821 11763.00786 426.37133 "NG"
CONT EOC
NE SS 14394 5175.92156 11769.07448 426.84566 "EOC"
NE SS 14395 5175.92625 11769.70832 427.55813 "EOC"
BEG EOC1
NE SS 14396 5175.48373 11768.75875 427.55500 "EOC1"
CONT FL
END
NE SS 14397 5189.91250 11762.48580 427.82987 "FL 4FT"
CONT FL
NE SS 14398 5195.24751 11758.87449 426.25789 "NG"
CONT EOC1
NE SS 14399 5195.38915 11758.67562 426.66911 "EOC1"
CONT EOC
NE SS 14400 5193.37630 11753.11706 426.60643 "EOC"
CONT EOC1
C3
NE SS 14401 5219.27603 11751.51808 426.07357 "EOC1"
NE SS 14402 5220.43478 11751.64615 426.07355 "EOC1"
NE SS 14403 5220.70498 11753.27128 426.07280 "EOC1"
CONT EOC1
C3
NE SS 14404 5219.57300 11757.59810 426.00060 "EOC1"
NE SS 14405 5218.78182 11759.32181 426.00121 "EOC1"
NE SS 14406 5218.78182 11759.32181 426.00121 "EOC1"
NE SS 14407 5218.78182 11759.32181 426.00121 "EOC1 "
NE SS 14408 5218.78182 11759.32181 426.00121 "EOC1"
END EOC1
CONT FL
END
NE SS 14409 5217.36802 11760.22992 426.00122 "FL 4FT"
CONT FL
NE SS 14410 5225.49225 11758.25213 426.00055 "4FT"
END FL

Note that the conversion program adds a continue FL before the NG shot. This is probably what is happening with yours. We have seen a problem with doing line codes with spaces. Our crews are instructed to begin a line with a code (B FL4FT) and then continue with that exact code for the remainder of the line. We also do not use punctuation marks in codes as they tend to cause problems.

Also the description keys have nothing to do with how the program converts to a field book and draws linework in LDD or C3D. The description keys only control points, symbols, groups, layers and labeling.
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engineerandy
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Registered: ‎11-12-2007
Message 7 of 8 (180 Views)

Re: Description Keys - Lines dont Finish and Text After the Description

02-27-2008 07:17 AM in reply to: engineerandy
So you must use the same description with notes after it for everyshot on that line (i.e. FL4FT)? When I change the description with a note for only one point on the line it does not include that point in the line even though it begins with the description key (i.e. EPBROKEN). Thanks.
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sinjasoulian
Posts: 25
Registered: ‎06-01-2007
Message 8 of 8 (180 Views)

Re: Description Keys - Lines dont Finish and Text After the Description

04-15-2008 11:45 AM in reply to: engineerandy
I have an affordable program I wrote that gets rid of all these kinds of headaches. It creates a fieldbook file from an ascii file with linework. It separates the linework and points, so no more morass of continues and ends. It allows taking curves out of sequence, double coding shots, beginning 2 lines from the same point ect......If your interrested in trying out a free version, contact me at sinjasoulian@yahoo.com.
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