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*Wilbourn, Jeff
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Proxy Graphics Removal

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04-13-2000 03:59 AM
We have a drawing of our facility that's being used for floor layouts and
just about everything else. It's had numerous drawings imported into it
(mostly machine layouts) and it became an unmanageable behemoth. It got up
to 33 Meg with a couple hundred layers, most meaningless and erratic. I've
recently been trying to clean it up and re-organize the layers.

I've now got it down to @9M and 98 layers but I've ran into a snag.
Whenever you load the file up a dialog box appears saying that it can't find
"ATEXT", that there are 5 proxies that use it, and asks how to display them.
That's not the problem. One of the layers I'm trying to get rid of
(TEXT-MACHINES, totally useless in a facility with over a hundred machines)
is apparently empty. With every visible entry in this layer either moved or
erased, this layer refuses to Delete or be Purged.

Selecting entities by window with the cursor results in no entities
selected, either by the little boxes or by the Properties dialogue box.
However by Select All under the Edit menu, the Properties box reports the
selection of 4 of ACAD_PROXY_ENTITY, there still are no selection boxes.
With these selected I can hit Erase and the object become un-selected, but I
can select them again with Select All and the layer still refuses to be
deleted. If I List with the entities selected I do get a listing of the 4
entities with their handles and their "positions", but I haven't figured out
a way for that to help me. My question is, how do I get rid of these Proxy
entities so I can delete this layer? Thank you.

Jeff Wilbourn
JWilbourn@machiningent.com
*Wengerd, Owen
Message 2 of 7 (1,571 Views)

Re: Proxy Graphics Removal

04-13-2000 06:34 AM in reply to: *Wilbourn, Jeff
Jeff:

> My question is, how do I get rid of these Proxy
> entities so I can delete this layer?

You could try to WBLOCK all objects *except* the four proxy objects. If
that doesn't work and you have access to a copy of AutoCAD 2000, you can
always use my SuperPurge utility (http://www.manusoft.com/spurge.htm). :smileyhappy:
--
Owen Wengerd
President, ManuSoft ==> http://www.manusoft.com
VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. ==> http://www.cadlock.com
*Rudolph, Dietmar
Message 3 of 7 (1,571 Views)

Re: Proxy Graphics Removal

04-13-2000 09:14 AM in reply to: *Wilbourn, Jeff
> With every visible entry in this layer either moved or
>erased, this layer refuses to Delete or be Purged.

Jeff,

layer may be referenced in many ways. For instance an object within
some block definition may reference the layer, or even worse, a block
definition object itself may reference this layer. You should purge
several times because this may delete unused blocks including their
references. If nothing else helps, you can still export the drawing as
DXF and search with a text editor where the layer name appears.

> My question is, how do I get rid of these Proxy
>entities so I can delete this layer? Thank you.

It is possible that the creator of these custom objects has set them
not to erase. Then the only way ist to create a copy of the drawing
containing everything else but the custom objects. Be aware that
WBLOCK with object selection only exports the objects of the current
space/layout.

Dietmar Rudolph

President, CR/LF GmbH, http://www.crlf.de
Vice-President Europe, CADLock, Inc. http://www.cadlock.com
Webmaster, AutoCAD Developers Group Europe, http://www.adge.org
Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program

Author, "Mastering AutoCAD 2000 Objects", http://www.crlf.de/Verlag/PublishingServices.html
*Rudolph, Dietmar
Message 4 of 7 (1,571 Views)

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04-13-2000 09:15 AM in reply to: *Wilbourn, Jeff
> and you have access to a copy of AutoCAD 2000, you can
>always use my SuperPurge utility (http://www.manusoft.com/spurge.htm). :smileyhappy:

Seems like there's need for an LT version of SuperPurge ...

Dietmar Rudolph

President, CR/LF GmbH, http://www.crlf.de
Vice-President Europe, CADLock, Inc. http://www.cadlock.com
Webmaster, AutoCAD Developers Group Europe, http://www.adge.org
Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program

Author, "Mastering AutoCAD 2000 Objects", http://www.crlf.de/Verlag/PublishingServices.html
*Matthew
Message 5 of 7 (1,571 Views)

Re:

04-13-2000 05:31 PM in reply to: *Wilbourn, Jeff
Jeff,

A list of ways a layer can have nothing on it and not be purged.

An attribute may be defined on it (the non-deleteable layer). in which case
simply redefining the block will not get rid of the layer. you would have to
redefine al of the inserts of that block.

Another way is that a block may contain an entity defined on a layer other
than "0". in this case simply redefining the bloc kwould take care of it.

One more way is to have a mview in a parer space layout with the layer
frozen in the viewport.

HTH
Matthew
*Milos, Jeff
Message 6 of 7 (1,571 Views)

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04-16-2000 12:18 AM in reply to: *Wilbourn, Jeff
One way to get rid of proxy items is to do a saveas R12. I know this is
imposible with AutoCAD LT 2000 but I have an upgrade version which means I
need to have my old copy of AutoCAD LT 97 on my computer so I save it as a
R14 file then I open it up in LT97 and do a saveas...This seems to get rid
of all proxy items or at lease any reference to them...It will also change
mtext and leaders...

There are defenely problems with it but it does work.

Jeff

"Matthew" wrote in message
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> Jeff,
>
> A list of ways a layer can have nothing on it and not be purged.
>
> An attribute may be defined on it (the non-deleteable layer). in which
case
> simply redefining the block will not get rid of the layer. you would have
to
> redefine al of the inserts of that block.
>
> Another way is that a block may contain an entity defined on a layer other
> than "0". in this case simply redefining the bloc kwould take care of it.
>
> One more way is to have a mview in a parer space layout with the layer
> frozen in the viewport.
>
> HTH
> Matthew
>
*Wengerd, Owen
Message 7 of 7 (1,571 Views)

Re:

12-13-2003 10:11 PM in reply to: *Wilbourn, Jeff
Dietmar:

> Seems like there's need for an LT version of SuperPurge ...

Yes, but unfortunately all the user interface code is still in AutoLISP.
The next major release will be entirely ARX, and will support LT. :smileyhappy:
--
Owen Wengerd
President, ManuSoft ==> http://www.manusoft.com
VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. ==> http://www.cadlock.com

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