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Problem with the scale of the type of line.

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Anonymous
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Problem with the scale of the type of line.

Hi everyone,

 

I have a problem with the scale of the type of line. When i draw a multi-line and that i want to change the scale of the type of line, for example i put a value of 10, nothing changes. The scale stays the same than before.

 

I don't find how i can change it and why autocad don't consider my request.

 

Thanks very much.

 

 

 

 

 

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Message 2 of 9
hwalker
in reply to: Anonymous

Are you drawing this line in paperspace or modelspace?

 

Have you invoked the command REGEN?

 

What Linetype are you using?

 

Also if you post your drawing, someone on here can have a look at it as well and point you in the right direction.

Howard Walker
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Anonymous
in reply to: hwalker

I am drawing this line in the model space. I am using types of line loaded  with the file "acadlt.lin". I am using also personal types of lines but it doesn't work with every types, personnal or default.

 

I have already invoked the command REGEN but nothing changes.

 

I can send you a drawing very simple and where I have this problem. The problem appears in each new draw i want to begin.

 

Thanks for your help.

Message 4 of 9
hwalker
in reply to: Anonymous

Right looking at your file on my screen the lines are fine.

 

Here's what you need to do.

 

At the command line type in LTSCALE. If the number is not 1 change it to 1.

Also make sure that PSLTSCALE is also 1.

 

Howard Walker
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Charles_Shade
in reply to: hwalker

Welcome to the Autodesk Forums!

 

And to expand on Howards response:

Thanks to Bob_Zurunkle:

Are you on 2008 or newer? If so, you start in Modelspace with CANNOSCALE set to the overall scale you use the most or what you will plot to in that drawing.
Next, remove all linetype scale overrides and set LTSCALE, MSLTSCALE, PSLTSCALE & CELTSCALE all to 1.
Next, test out the different linetypes in modelspace to see if certain ones work for you for most cases. AutoCAD ships with 3 variations of most linetypes. This will probably not work for the batting linetype, but will be a good drawing practice that once you get it set, you may want to create a template from it. Also, it may not appear to work in your current drawing -- you may want to try a regen, and if that doesn't work, you may want to start with your clean template, do all of the above steps, and then COPYBASE the contents of the existing drawing into the new one.

Now, in modelspace you can adjust the linetype scaling of the batting linetype to fit within your wall. It may be a different scale from one wall width to the next though. If the other factors are all set as noted above, then what you see in modelspace should be what you see in any viewport in paperspace.

Before 2008, you would override the linetype scale in modelspace first, then apply a global adjustment by the inverse of the viewport scale, but this only applies to one viewport scale (so other viewports with different scales won't show the linetype the same). By changing PSLTSCALE to 1, you are saying you want paperspace to detect it's scale and adjust how the linetype is viewed accordingly, making it view the same in all viewports no matter what their scale. When you use this, you set LTSCALE to 1 (this is the global linetype you are setting).

So it is still best to start with everything set to 1, and test out your linetypes in modelspace to see what looks best to you. If you are on 2008 or newer, then adjust your CANNOSCALE on typical linetypes like hidden, center, phantom etc and pick one of the 3 of each that works best. This is to avoid overriding the linetype scale. But on 2007 or older, you have to find which scale override works best for you, and then set your CELTSCALE to that scale. After either of these that fits your case, then draw a batting line and adjust it's scale to suit you, using the override.

I hope I haven't been too confusing lol...

Message 6 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: Charles_Shade

I have tested the both solutions and unfortunately none of them has resolved my problems.

Charles, i am on AutoCad LT2014. At the beginning, when i have installed the software, i had not this problem. I really don't understand why it has changed since.

 

I have followed all your instructions and nothing has changed.

 

I have noted that when I select a line, multi-line. It doesn't appear on the properties (As you can see on the attachment file) as if autocad didn't recognize the line.

 

I hope it will help you to help me.

 

Thanks.

Message 7 of 9
Bob_Zurunkle
in reply to: Anonymous

OP go into modelspace and check to see if CANNOSCALE is 1:1. That's the default, but sometimes it makes a dashed or hidden linetype look continuous for example. If you zoom way in you'll see it is indeed dashed or hidden. The trick is, if you want it to the same as a 1/4"=1'-0" viewport in paperspace, set CANNOSCALE to 1/4"=1'-0" in modelspace.

 

Next, highlight a problem line and check its properties. What's the linetype scale?

If by some odd chance my nattering was useful -- that's great, glad to help. But if it actually solved your issue, then please mark my solution as accepted 🙂
Message 8 of 9
Bob_Zurunkle
in reply to: Bob_Zurunkle

I just looked at the drawing and I see several different ployline linetypes all at different linetype scales from each other. OP start with the linetype you are having trouble with, set its linetype scale to 1:1, and set CANNOSCALE to make that one linetype look correct. THEN adjust the linetype scaling of your individual polylines until you are satisfied with them.

If by some odd chance my nattering was useful -- that's great, glad to help. But if it actually solved your issue, then please mark my solution as accepted 🙂
Message 9 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: Bob_Zurunkle

All the solutions proposed didn't work, so i have decided to reinstall autocad and the problem has disappear. I think the problem was due to a bad "involuntary" configuration of autocad.

 

Thanks for your helps!

 

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