Autosave

[Anonymous]

Is there a setting to allow autosaves to occur every 15-20 mins even when Autocad is on but you might be using outlook and writing an email. If I have 6 - 7 drawings open and only drop into one of then once every hour or so the last ac$ for it my be 2 or 3 hours old because I've only been active in it for 10 mins or so over the last few hours. Is there a force autosave or demand autosave that would do this. (2002lt on xppro over 2000 networked drgs server)

can anyone help

[Anonymous]

Have you considered just saving your files, then closing them down? If you
need to re-access them, use the File pulldown menu list to get them back
open, or save shortcuts to them.

AutoCAD/LT easily corrupts file beyond access sometimes, and your 'behavior'
is a classic setup for that to happen one day.

AUTOSAVE is there to help you recover from a crash, it's name and occasional
SAVE nature is misleading to most users. Only rely on it to recover a file
after a crash. ISAVEPERCENT set to 0 (zero) and BAK file creation turned on,
along with actually using SAVE, is the best way to save your file, and your
job 😉

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Dean Saadallah
Add-on products for LT
http://www.pendean.com/lt
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[Anonymous]

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:01:20 -0700, dblomfield
wrote:

>Is there a setting to allow autosaves to occur every 15-20 mins even when Autocad is on but you might be using outlook and writing an email. If I have 6 - 7 drawings open and only drop into one of then once every hour or so the last ac$ for it my be 2 or 3 hours old because I've only been active in it for 10 mins or so over the last few hours. Is there a force autosave or demand autosave that would do this. (2002lt on xppro over 2000 networked drgs server)

can anyone help

First things first. Autosave files have the extension SV$. Files with
the extension AC$ are temporary files used by AutoCAD and may or may not
contain valid drawing data.

If you have a drawing open and you do not save within the time you set
for autosave to kick in, then an SV$ file is created in the folder
nominated in the options dialog. If you subsequently save the drawing
before the next autosave, then the SV$ file is deleted as it is no
longer needed - you have performed a save. If you skip 2 autosaves and
you have AutoCAD set to create BAK files, then the first SV$ file is
renamed to a BAK file before the autosave is done. A subsequent save
will see the SV$ file deleted, but the BAK file of the autosave will
remain there.

If you close the drawings correctly (saving or discarding changes as you
decide), then the autosave files relating to those drawings will be
deleted.

So if you do not see autosave files (SV$), then this means that saves
have been performed or the drawings closed off and the changes saved or
discarded as you decide. The only time you will see SV$ files remaining
is if AutoCAD crashes and an autosave file exists.

The setting to change the autosave interval is in the Options dialog.
You can also access it directly from the command prompt with the
SAVETIME command.

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Regards,

Ian A. White, CPEng
ianwhite@wai.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

Ph: +61 418 203 229
Fax: +61 2 9622 0450
Home Page: www.wai.com.au

[Anonymous]

Thanks Ian for the info.
Unfortunately it does not answer the problem really. The clock of the autosave/ bak needs to be linked to the system variable for ammount of time since the drawing was opened not the actual access time in the drawing.
Only I must remember to rename any possibly relivant ac$ or Bak before re opening the crashed drawing (s)

I do not find dean's info useful or related to real working practice. in the last 4 offices I've worked in it is normal to work on a number of drawings simultaneously and not have to save everything I have every time I do anything else. The day is too short. Bak should be reliable and autocad should be stable.

[Anonymous]

>>>... not have to save everything I have every time I do anything else
...<<<

Famous last words: the first time to lose the 'big' one, you will change
your mind. It does not hurt my feelings if you decide to ignore it, you will
come around eventually my friend. We've all been there.

--
Dean Saadallah
Add-on products for LT
http://www.pendean.com/lt
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[Anonymous]

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:14:04 -0700, dblomfield
wrote:

>Thanks Ian for the info.

>Unfortunately it does not answer the problem really. The clock of the autosave/ bak needs to be linked to the system variable for ammount of time since the drawing was opened not the actual access time in the drawing.

>Only I must remember to rename any possibly relivant ac$ or Bak before re opening the crashed drawing (s)

I do not find dean's info useful or related to real working practice. in the last 4 offices I've worked in it is normal to work on a number of drawings simultaneously and not have to save everything I have every time I do anything else. The day is too short. Bak should be reliable and autocad should be stable.

The Autosave clock starts ticking as soon as AutoCAD considers the
drawing has been modified (i.e. DBMOD is no longer 0). There is no
point in doing an autosave if nothing in the drawing has changed.

It may be a typo, but the autosave has the extension SV$ and not AC$.

One of the big problems with AutoCAD is that it cries wolf too often.
For example, the variables TSPACEFAC and TSPACETYPE are NEVER saved
anywhere, yet changing them will see the value of DBMOD change to
indicate that drawing has changed. Similarly, if you do not save
settings in the plot dialog, AutoCAD will still flag the drawing as
having been altered merely going into and back out of the plot dialog.
Similarly, using the "Copy with basepoint" will see the drawing end up
as being considered modified when NOTHING has changed. With all these
false alarms, users can never really be sure if they have actually made
a change to the drawing or not.

The other point that was raised was the setting of ISAVEPERCENT. This
should be set to 0. This will force a full save every time, and the
additional time required for this is very small but the benefits are
fewer problems.

Earlier versions of AutoCAD did not delete the autosave files on proper
exit or after a save, and users complained about having to delete these
manually, so now we have them automatically deleted when considered
unnecessary. Maybe it should have been an option like it is to create
BAK files.

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Regards,

Ian A. White, CPEng
ianwhite@wai.com.au
WAI Engineering
Sydney 2000
Australia

Ph: +61 418 203 229
Fax: +61 2 9622 0450
Home Page: www.wai.com.au