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    AutoCAD Isometrics WS

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    Please try AutoCAD Isometrics WS and provide feedback

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    10-31-2011 04:48 PM

    You can try the technology preview for yourself. Learn more about it at:

     

    http://labs.autodesk.com/utilities/isometrics/



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    sinbincop
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    Re: Please try AutoCAD Isometrics WS and provide feedback

    11-01-2011 09:02 AM in reply to: scott.sheppard

    When I go to the Get Started button and log in with my user name it hangs up endlessly and I cannot access the program

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    erolland2012
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    Re: Please try AutoCAD Isometrics WS and provide feedback

    11-09-2011 12:47 PM in reply to: scott.sheppard
    Scott,

    I really like the idea of this tool, I was waiting for an Autodesk version of I-Run since AIP 9.

    Now please go further and include personal title block, configuration of Bill of Material, the possibility to hide welds on final, to be able to have Elbows in Arc, the different way to have dimensions, to remuse a configuation tool will be wonderfull.

    Thank you to start this project.

    I am availbale to help you to help with Inventor PCF files

     
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    Re: Please try AutoCAD Isometrics WS and provide feedback

    11-10-2011 06:42 AM in reply to: erolland2012

    Thank you for your suggestions. We can consider them as we move the technology forward.



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    dgorsman
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    Re: Please try AutoCAD Isometrics WS and provide feedback

    11-15-2011 12:30 PM in reply to: scott.sheppard

    Not a bad idea.  Individual customization is essential, as we (like others) don't use everything on one iso (welds, cut piece IDs, spool IDs, etc.).  A couple of things to note on a submitted test PCF:

     

    • incorrect flange orientations
    • bolt length formats are a bit off; even though we do metric lengths for everything bolts are commonly spec'd in imperial dia. x length
    • no weld dots?  "Implied" welds at components should be processed, too.

    The processing time is a little slower than running ISOGEN natively.  Of course, with the raw PCF files its a little easier to set up batch pre/post processing before the files are sent off.  And having a common setting for for all concerned can virtually guarantee consistent isometric generation without having to fight through pre-existing CAD configurations in different offices (e.g. out-of-office stress engineers or multi-EPCM collaborations).

     

    Some clients might be a little wary of information security, especially those using licensed processes.

     

    Might be a little early in the project, but please take some forward thought on how to hande jacketed piping.  Its the biggest hurdle I keep coming against when configuring isometric generation.

     

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    Re: Please try AutoCAD Isometrics WS and provide feedback

    12-01-2011 01:22 AM in reply to: scott.sheppard

    Good Work. Only ...when I generate the iso, all part are separated on a drawing. I dont get a complete iso. I made a pipe run in Inventor and convert it in the ISOGEN tool.

     

     

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    Re: Please try AutoCAD Isometrics WS and provide feedback

    12-01-2011 07:29 AM in reply to: scott.sheppard

    Thanks for trying it. Can you send me the file so we can use it as a test case? We would treat your data with confidentiality.



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    Re: Please try AutoCAD Isometrics WS and provide feedback

    02-07-2012 05:33 AM in reply to: scott.sheppard

    Great idea! I had enquired recently about something along these lines.

     

    Plant 3D is tops for generating ISO’s, however, when using real 3D (Inventor), the pcf is sadly lacking in data and it is not compatible with Plant 3D. Do you have plans for an “ISOGEN” type tool that allows one to modify the pcf e.g. add supports, bolts, half-couplings / threadolets, floor/wall entry etc. and to enhance the pcf to make it compatible with Plant 3D format?

     

    Thanks for the effort!

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    Re: Please try AutoCAD Isometrics WS and provide feedback

    02-08-2012 11:23 AM in reply to: oldgrey1

    "Read" 3D?  :smileyvery-happy:

     

    Please, please PLEASE consider something other than PCF.  Preferably XML with an open-source schema.  Currently there is no public documentation of the full PCF standard or the interface and trying to insert "things" into the plain-text format is buggeringly difficult.  PCF may be the only format in common use but lets try to get some competition going...

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    Re: Please try AutoCAD Isometrics WS and provide feedback

    02-09-2012 08:26 AM in reply to: dgorsman

    As a means of obtaining asbestos chaps, what format do you suggest? Most formats have geometric primitives defined in them already.



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