schematics and wiring diagrams, but put the Title Block into Paperspace for
General Arrangement drawings that are done on a 1 to 1 scale.
every drawing to be set up with the Title Block in Paperspace..
system for the cross-referencing of components and such when you do
this. I think this is the only thing
that get lost when using Paperspace though.
updated automatically when using Title Block update, and individual dwg numbers
and sheet numbers have to be done manually as they don't get individual
dwg/sheet numbers in the dwg properties.
you can have several layouts attached to the one M/space for different views of
the one dwg. This can be a help with the GA type dwgs when close up views of
details are required.
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<sgsawdy> wrote in messageWe
find it much easier to ignore paperspace and just do everything in model
space. We don't need multiple views in our drawings so we do not need to mess
with paperspace at all. Just one thing less we have to mess with.
I know this is a bit of an old topic but I am running into this issue now and would like some insight. I have a 17.5' x8'x4' panel I am designing, huge to say the least. It is for a r&d line I am working on so I know there are going to be multiple changes at time goes by. So the old way of doing things would be to do multiple models (copy paste) and every time there is a change, change multiple sheets for even the smallest thing, which Im thinking is going to be around a 50+ page panel layout document. This seems ridiculous to me, if my wire way had to move an inch it would take me a day to be copying and pasting. Does anyone have a better way to do this where i can change 1 model and be done.
Although I have never had to do this with 50+ drawings, it has worked just fine with 4-5 drawings so it should be scalable.
Create the main drawing in modelspace. For all the other views, create a new drawing and setup the titleblock so it is in Paperspace. In modelspace, xref the master drawing into the new drawing. Create one viewport in paperspace that fits the interior of the titelblock and then "zoom in" to the view you want. Save the drawing as a new name in sequence and then using this new drawing zoomin to the next section. Save as a new drawing in sequence, rinse and repeat until you have all the views that you want..
After creating all the drawings, add them to your project ( I am assuming that the titleblock has the Autocad Electrical attributes already in it) and fill in the description and sheet number, drawing number, etc.Run a titleblock update for the entire project to update the titleblocks. Now when you make changes to the master drawing, all the other drawings will automatically update when you open them.
This works with using only one layout in paperspace. ACE does not work well with updating more than one layout tab.
I hope this helps,
Ace User since 1998
I am very much intrigued as to how this actually works but it seemsl ike you are on the right track. You seem like you are a bit more seasoned than I am. Am I understanding this correctally, you create a project file (.wdp) and create 1 model space drawing, then use the .wdp to only look at paper space? If you could explain a little better or even if you could send an example that would be great.
I would like to hear a little more on this too. I want to do our panel layout as one big model space drawing, then provide details on additional sheets as views into the main model. If I have to do this with XREF's, that's fine, but I'd like to know all the ins and outs before I get started.
The .wdp file does not have anything to do with this issue.
I used to do all my drawings in model space only and a title block with views in paper space only when a customer required it. Now we do all of our work in model space and all of our title blocks are in paper space.
We also do plant wide layouts. These are produced by our mechanical department and consist of many drawings. The controls department has to sift through the layouts to see which ones will carry the information we need and then we create a layout by xrefing in all of those layouts. In this drawing we create mutiple layouts with a title block in each. Note, you can use the Titleblock Update tool on this drawing for all information that will be the same in every title block. We put different sheet numbers and some of the descriptions might be different. Those we update and change manually.
In each layout we have a different view of the model. In that view we have the specific items needed. We have different layers so we can show different levels or associations. These drawings can get quite large when the plant is several hundred thousand square feet.
This way, any of the xref's get changed by mechanical, those changes will show up in our layout and we can make adjustments.
There is a lot more on this subject, but it is time to go home