AutoCAD Electrical

[#1]

Hello,

First timer. How do you increase the text size for the line numbers in a schematic.

I only have 25 lines but the font is to small to read

Thanks

Carl

[#2]

Two ways to fix it....

Non permenant fix is to go to the attribute dialog and select size. Put in the size you require and then select the "Type It'

mode. Now type in WIRE*.

This will go through the dwg and change all occurencences of wire* to the size requested. NOTE you will need to go through and adjust the inline wire gaps if you have wire numbers embedded into the wire.

The permenant fix is to actually edit the blocks used for the wire numbers. Just select all the attributes in the centre of the block and set them to the font and size you require. Save the blocks and update them throughout the project.

Regards Brad

[#3]

Carl,

If the line numbers are too small, you need to check the the Feature Scale Multiplier located  by Right Clicking on the drawing in the project list and selecting

Properties\Drawing Properties\Drawing Format Tab.

It should look like this if you are using jic (area in red rectangle)

I tried with setting the FSM to 0.1 and the line numbers became very small.

I have noticed that if you are working with a drawing that was originally set up for IEC and then switch to jic, something like this happens.

What drawing style are you using?

It would help if you post a copy of the drawing you are using for us to look at...

[#4]

Thanks for the quick responses. Here are some screen shots of the problem

Example #1- The numbers are properly sized for B size border

                       

Example #2 - Here is what they look like with a D size / text to small

 

Not sure how to increase text

Just dusted off my old VIA/WD from years ago / looks like this is all based on the WD

Carl

[#5]

Carl,

If you were to print out the B-Size and D-Size print (fule scale) you will probably notice that the text is the same size. It will appear smaller if you print the D-Size on a B-Size sheet.

The line number will not be your only problem. All the symbols will have this problem. You can try using the jic125 library but I do not think it will be large enough.

Ace works very well on B-Size prints. If you want everything to be legible when a D-Size print is printed on a B-Size sheet, you will need to double the Feature Scale of all the symbols. If you were to do that though, you would not be able to fit more symbols on the sheet; you would have just made everything bigger and would have been better off doing everything on a B-Size print anyway.

Just my 0.02...

[#6]

Bob,

I am going to try to change the STANDARD to B - size here at a-i. This has been the standard at other companies I have worked for.

Thanks for you help

Carl

[#7]

The size of the reference numbers is based on the WD_MLRH or WD_MLRV block attribute size.  You can also use an optional WD_MLRHX or WD_MLRVX block.

PER Help file:

WD_M.dwg	Block insert consisting of about 50 invisible attributes. They carry the settings of the drawing.
WD_PNLM.dwg	Optional block insert consisting of several invisible attributes. They carry the settings of the drawing for panel layout functions.
WD_MLRH.dwg	Block insert that carries the first line reference number of a ladder and additional information such as rung spacing and ladder length.
WD_MLRV.dwg	Same as previous symbol, but for a ladder that lies on its side.
WD_MLRHX.dwg	Optional, user-defined alternative to WD_MLRH.dwg. AutoCAD Electrical uses this symbol name when you select 'User Block' from the Line Reference Numbers subdialog box of the Drawing Properties > Drawing Format dialog box (on the Drawing Properties > Drawing Format dialog box, Format Referencing section, select Reference Numbers and click Setup).
WD_MLRVX.dwg	Same as previous symbol, but for a ladder that lies on its side.

NoteThe ladder line reference block used by AutoCAD Electrical is determined by the ladder reference configuration selected in the Format Referencing section of the Drawing Properties > Drawing Format dialog box.

[#8]

Thanks testsubject and btackes!! I was having a similar problem with my numbers being too large. I figured out that changing the feature scale helped but I really wanted to know why it was doing this as I jumped from old drawings created in regular ACAD, I believe. 

[#9]

Is there a fast an easy way that I could change the line reference numbers from one style to another ie hexagon to just a simple 5 digit number? When I delete the ladder lines, purge, change the drawing configuration, and then insert, it is hard to place the references in the same spot as they were before.