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fdna49
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Whats New in ACADE 2005?

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07-07-2004 10:31 AM
I just received my upgrade to 2005.
What's new and improved?
I haven't seen a list anywhere - did i miss it?
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*Scott Reese \(Autodesk\)
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Re: Whats New in ACADE 2005?

07-07-2004 11:01 AM in reply to: fdna49
Hi, If you go into the help system by choosing Help-->Electrical Help Topics, you will see a link in the middle of the screen that shows more information on "What's New" in AutoCAD Electrical 2005. If you haven't installed it yet and want to see what's new, please see the AutoCAD Electrical Product Summary document found in the features section of www.autodesk.com\autocadelectrical. We look forward to your feedback on the release. Thanks, Scott Reese Product Manager -------------------------- "fdna49" wrote in message news:18801390.1089221548881.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1... > I just received my upgrade to 2005. > What's new and improved? > I haven't seen a list anywhere - did i miss it? > > > Message was edited by: fdna49 >
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Jay Mackey
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Re: Whats New in ACADE 2005?

07-07-2004 11:47 AM in reply to: fdna49
Scott, is there something that lists all of the specific changes? I have AE2005 now, but I'm in the middle of a project and won't consider upgrading until we're out of the weeds.

Thanks,

- Jay
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fdna49
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Re: Whats New in ACADE 2005?

07-07-2004 12:20 PM in reply to: fdna49
Scott,
Thanks for your reply.
I am in the same boat as Jay, I am in the middle of several projects and just wanted to know if there was some "new" feature the would benefit me immediately if i upgraded now, or to wait till the job load lessens.

Thanks
Chad
*Scott Reese \(Autodesk\)
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Re: Whats New in ACADE 2005?

07-07-2004 01:24 PM in reply to: fdna49
Good feedback. It sounds like you may have found the "Product Overview" document that is more of a high level overview that doesn't go into specifics of functionality. The "Product Summary" document is actually an overview of what is new in AutoCAD Electrical 2005. It does include some core functionality but for the most part keys on the new or enhanced features. Sorry for the confusion. If you follow this link, it will pull up the Product Summary document: http://www3.autodesk.com/adsk/files/4271670_AutoCAD_Electrical_PS.pdf If you have more specific questions about any of these new or enhanced features, please post them and we would be happy to answer them for you. As another option, you can install AE 2005 alongside of your AE 2004 without upgrading it. It installs into a clean directory and leaves your 2004 version untouched so that you can continue working on your project. From there, you could review the "What's New" section of the help system which covers the features in detail. Does that help? Thanks, Scott -------------------- "Jay Mackey" wrote in message news:10910697.1089226107701.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost... > Scott, that is not a very good reference for determining what is new in AE 2005. It's just a brouchure that gives a bird's-eye view of AE 2005. > > I have AE2005 now, but I'm in the middle of a project and won't consider upgrading until we're out of the weeds. I would like to know what is new, as well, and that document just doesn't go into enough detail. > > - Jay
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Jay Mackey
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Re: Whats New in ACADE 2005?

07-07-2004 02:33 PM in reply to: fdna49
I might try to get it installed on one of our systems.

Is it possible to use the 2005 Merge Catalog database utility to merge the 2005 Catalog, and any other catalog into our 2004 Catalog and then use it with AE 2004? I want to temporarily gain the benefit of the expanded 2005 Catalog with AE 2004.

Thanks,

Jay
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fdna49
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Re: Whats New in ACADE 2005?

07-07-2004 02:35 PM in reply to: fdna49
Scott,
Its great news that 2004 and 2005 can both be run at the same time. That's what I will do, that way I can ramp up to 2005 and still be productive on 2004.

Thanks
Chad
*Scott Reese \(Autodesk\)
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Re: Whats New in ACADE 2005?

07-08-2004 08:52 AM in reply to: fdna49
Jay, Although this is not a scenario that was heavily tested in our QA process, you should be able to merge your ACE2004 database with the ACE2005 database and then use the resulting database in ACE2004. The ACE2005 vendor content database has well over 40,000 new additions. Just make sure that you first back up your ACE2004 database, run the new merge database command, and then copy the resulting database back into the name and path were ACE2004 is looking for it. There are some minor structural differences in the two databases but it should work fine. The only reason you would need to merge the two is if you have made modifications/additions to your ACE2004 database. Otherwise, you should be able to simply copy the ACE2005 database over the ACE2004 database. As always, we would recommend backing up your old database first. Hope that helps. Thanks, Scott --------------- "Jay Mackey" wrote in message news:30900110.1089236020617.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com... > I might try to get it installed on one of our systems. > > Is it possible to use the 2005 Merge Catalog database utility to merge the 2005 Catalog, and any other catalog into our 2004 Catalog and then use it with AE 2004? > > Thanks, > > Jay
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bandit
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Re: Whats New in ACADE 2005?

07-14-2004 07:51 AM in reply to: fdna49
Is there any improvemnet in the HOW-TO Department in the Help Files from 2004 to 2005..............

just wondering
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Jay Mackey
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Re: Whats New in ACADE 2005?

07-14-2004 11:45 AM in reply to: fdna49
The short answer is 'no', unless you believe providing the 2004 online tutorial as a printed document qualifies as an 'improvement'.

I've perused the new help file a bit: There's little to like...

The layout/format of the help file has been radically altered. Instead of a Contents tab with a Table of Contents style of layout, there is only a Home page that has a list of thirty-or-so headings under 6-8 main topics, such as Project-related, Wire-related, PLC-related, etc. For example, there are six links to various subjects under the 'Wire' category, but at least two of these links have fly-out lists of sub-topics, so it's a little better than I was afraid of. There is still an Index and Search tab for tracking down info by those means, so the best bet for finding info on the 3-phase bus wiring topic, for example, is to use the Index or Search. However, there is no page-forward or -back buttons for stepping through the entire help file from front to back. It's been changed from a Book/Chapter layout to a random-access reference manual layout. It's going to take a lot of searching, clicking, and reading to determine if it even has all of the information that the 2004 help file had.

There is no linear tutorial for the Electrical part of AE2005 in the help file. There is a printed tutorial for 2005 that appears to be a direct copy of the 2004 online tutorial. It does not cover any of the new features. The info in the specific topics 'may' or may not be an improvement over the previous online manual. Regarding the new features, there is only a basic 'new features' page that does little more than provide a single link from each of the eight-or-so 'new features' to a topic in the help file.

It's even less 'printable' than the 2004 help file. I think you could print out a full chapter or series of topics before. Now it is only page-by-page.

I don't know if there is something else on the CD. I only looked at the printed docs, and the files that were linked from the application.

There is a built-in survey that asks you to rate the current help file and the importance of tutorials and other features, so be sure to send that in if you want changes. The implication is that they know there is a problem and a solution is in the works. It's possible that they ran up against a deadline and simply didn't get it completed in time.

- Jay

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