Field Description

[Anonymous]

Hi!

I did a project and use the following Manufacturer and Catalog:
Manufacturer: AB, Catalog: 1329RS-ZA00218VNC;
Manufacturer: Siemens, Catalog: 3RA1130-4EB34-0AK6.
In dafault_cat.mdb file there are information in fields Description and
Misc1 for the both Catalogs. When I generate a BOM (Purchase) the field
Description is not filled for these two catalogs.
Why does this occur?

Thanks.

LTriska

[Anonymous]

This is hard to know without seeing the drawing and catalog database. When a
BOM is run these values are pulled out on the fly. If you edit the component
and pick Catalog Check does it show the description? Do these descriptions
show in the BOM for other components as expected? Is this only in the
Purchase display option or any of the BOM display options? If the catalog
database isn't too large maybe you can zip up the drawing and the database
and send to me directly at pat.murnen@autodesk,com

Pat Murnen

"LTriska" wrote in message
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Hi!

I did a project and use the following Manufacturer and Catalog:
Manufacturer: AB, Catalog: 1329RS-ZA00218VNC;
Manufacturer: Siemens, Catalog: 3RA1130-4EB34-0AK6.
In dafault_cat.mdb file there are information in fields Description and
Misc1 for the both Catalogs. When I generate a BOM (Purchase) the field
Description is not filled for these two catalogs.
Why does this occur?

Thanks.

LTriska

[Anonymous]

Hi.

When I edit the component and pick Catalog Check it show the description.
These description show for other component (Catalog).
This occurs for any of the BOM display options.
See the image attached.
I use AutoCAD Electrical 2009 with SP1, WinXP Pro.

Note: The Database is original ACE 2009 default_cat.mdb. Whitout records
added and without records edited.

Thanks.

LTriska

"Pat Murnen" escreveu na mensagem
news:6000796@discussion.autodesk.com...
This is hard to know without seeing the drawing and catalog database. When a
BOM is run these values are pulled out on the fly. If you edit the component
and pick Catalog Check does it show the description? Do these descriptions
show in the BOM for other components as expected? Is this only in the
Purchase display option or any of the BOM display options? If the catalog
database isn't too large maybe you can zip up the drawing and the database
and send to me directly at pat.murnen@autodesk,com

Pat Murnen

"LTriska" wrote in message
news:6000026@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi!

I did a project and use the following Manufacturer and Catalog:
Manufacturer: AB, Catalog: 1329RS-ZA00218VNC;
Manufacturer: Siemens, Catalog: 3RA1130-4EB34-0AK6.
In dafault_cat.mdb file there are information in fields Description and
Misc1 for the both Catalogs. When I generate a BOM (Purchase) the field
Description is not filled for these two catalogs.
Why does this occur?

Thanks.

LTriska

[Anonymous]

Can you send me a drawing with a component using one of these catalogs? My
email is pat.murnen@autodesk.com

Thanks,
Pat Murnen

"LTriska" wrote in message
news:6001326@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi.

When I edit the component and pick Catalog Check it show the description.
These description show for other component (Catalog).
This occurs for any of the BOM display options.
See the image attached.
I use AutoCAD Electrical 2009 with SP1, WinXP Pro.

Note: The Database is original ACE 2009 default_cat.mdb. Whitout records
added and without records edited.

Thanks.

LTriska

"Pat Murnen" escreveu na mensagem
news:6000796@discussion.autodesk.com

[Anonymous]

I have a very similar problem. Certain symbols descriptions appear in the Component bom report but not the Bill of Materials.
After extensive messing about it appears to be linked to the WDTAGALT attribute.
I created my own symbol for a lamp and gave it the tag H and family LT. The symbol saved and loaded into the drawing O.K with all BOM's reporting correctly.
When i loaded the symbol back into the editor WDTAGALT, CATDESC and COLOUR were added to the symbol Attributes automatically. No problem. I inserted the WDTAGALT attribute without the CATDESC attribute and saved the symbol.
After reloading the symbol into the drawing the description reported in the Component bom but not the Bill of Materials. Going back to the editor i added the CATDESC attribute, saved and reloaded the symbol back into the drawing and all now reported fine.
It would appear that any symbols shipped with ACADE2009 in the LT library that has a WDTAGALT attribute already assigned to it will not report its description in the Bill of Materials report but shows up fine on the Component report.
This also seems to be the case for the MO library aswell
Unless i am doing something completely wrong or have not checked something. Any help appreciated.
Darren.

[Anonymous]

Darren, I don't really see how the WDTAGALT could be related to this. Also,
AcadE doesn't really use a CATDESC attribute. This information is pulled
from the catalog database each time the report is run. If you can post a
sample drawing I can look to see if it is the same issue.

Pat Murnen

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I have a very similar problem. Certain symbols descriptions appear in the
Component bom report but not the Bill of Materials.
After extensive messing about it appears to be linked to the WDTAGALT
attribute.
I created my own symbol for a lamp and gave it the tag H and family LT. The
symbol saved and loaded into the drawing O.K with all BOM's reporting
correctly.
When i loaded the symbol back into the editor WDTAGALT, CATDESC and COLOUR
were added to the symbol Attributes automatically. No problem. I inserted
the WDTAGALT attribute without the CATDESC attribute and saved the symbol.
After reloading the symbol into the drawing the description reported in the
Component bom but not the Bill of Materials. Going back to the editor i
added the CATDESC attribute, saved and reloaded the symbol back into the
drawing and all now reported fine.
It would appear that any symbols shipped with ACADE2009 in the LT library
that has a WDTAGALT attribute already assigned to it will not report its
description in the Bill of Materials report but shows up fine on the
Component report.
This also seems to be the case for the MO library aswell
Unless i am doing something completely wrong or have not checked something.
Any help appreciated.
Darren.

[Anonymous]

I'm having the same problems getting the descriptions over to the BOM. I have noticed that this only happens with tables starting with M or T (MS, TRMS, etc.).

In the attachment BOM1, this is a catalog check from edit component for a motor. Note that no table is displayed. But if I do a lookup, it goes to the correct part.

In the second attachment, I did the same thing for a fuse. That displays correctly in both the catalog check and the BOM.

I didn't have this problem in Acade 08, it showed up in 09.

Tim

[Anonymous]

Here's the next attachment.

[Anonymous]

There is an issue in 2009 that has to do with finding the correct catalog
table for a symbol when pulling out the information for the Bill of
Materials report. It is not disregarding the initial "H" or "V" for the
symbol name. So say your symbol is HFU1 it should look for the table FU but
if you happen to have a table called HF then it will find that first and
look for the catalog within that table. Same with the "V". SO if you symbol
is VMO1 it would find a table called VM first and never look at the MO
table. The only workarounds at this point are to either rename some of the
catalog tables if they aren't needed or to add the WDBLKNAM value with the
correct table name to the blocks.

Sorry for this inconvenience and we are working to resolve this issue.
Pat Murnen

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Here's the next attachment.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the replay, Pat. I have added tables to my catalog, one is for heaters, so that's where my "T" problem is coming from. I'll try adding the WDBLKNAM to some of my most often used blocks.
Tim

[Anonymous]

Tim, make a test first before you do too many WDBLKNAM values. I think there
are osme cases where it expects the initial "H" as part of the WDBLKNAM,
schematic symbols vs. panel footprints I think is the difference. One
requires "H" and other doesn't I think. If you have trouble I will look more
closely into it.

Pat Murnen

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Thanks for the replay, Pat. I have added tables to my catalog, one is for
heaters, so that's where my "T" problem is coming from. I'll try adding the
WDBLKNAM to some of my most often used blocks.
Tim

[Anonymous]

Pat, I renamed the table that was giving me trouble with the "M" tables, and now they work fine. However, I have a table for heaters "HT" that I use for almost every project, so for now I just copy and paste descriptions from another project's BOM to work around it. I didn't mess with any blocks for now, thought I'd just wait for a fix.
Thanks for your help.
Tim