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Checking Wire #s & Layers

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jlshapiro
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Checking Wire #s & Layers

Is there a way to quickly check if wires are on the correct layers? I have a schematic drawings with lots of wires & layers & would like to check them before running any reports.
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dougmcalexander
in reply to: jlshapiro

You can run the Show Wires utility under the wire spool fly-out menu, near
the bottom. It highlights all line entities that are located on a valid
wire layer. Beyond that AcadE cannot possibly know if you have a neutral
wire on the correct layer for color and size, or a power phase assigned to
the correct layer for coloe and size, according to JIC, IEC, etc. Those
types of functions step beyond AcadE's current capability, and if it gets
that smart, I would start looking for another line of work.

wrote in message news:5951279@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is there a way to quickly check if wires are on the correct layers? I have
a schematic drawings with lots of wires & layers & would like to check them
before running any reports.


Doug McAlexander


Design Engineer/Consultant/Instructor/Mentor specializing in AutoCAD Electrical training and implementation support

Phone and Web-based Support Plans Available

Phone: (770) 841-8009

www.linkedin.com/in/doug-mcalexander-1a77623




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jlshapiro
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What I was looking for was a way to validate the wire number(name) is the same as the layer name. I often start out w/other folks drawings, it would be nice if the layername & wire number matched up.

Now what I have to do is create/ fill out the wire type spreadsheet. Next make sure the lines(wires) are on the correct layer, then update the wire name using the edit wire number.

I hope I'm doing this wrong, because there must be an easier way!
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dougmcalexander
in reply to: jlshapiro

You create new wire types through the Create/Edit Wire Type tool. It does
indeed look like a spreadsheet. You can assign the color that the wire will
be on screen as well from this dialog, even the line type. You can assign
wire types to lines by using a crossing (backwards) window and anything the
window touches will be selected. You can pick any segment of each wire you
want to assign to the particular layer but if they are close together, the
crossing window is better.

The wire numbering is independent of the wire type. You can wire number
anytime you wish. If you have a particular wire number format set in the
drawing properties, AcadE will assign wire numbers to the entire drawing by
simply clicking the Drawing-wide button. You can choose Project-wide and it
will assign wire numbers to all drawings in the project.

If you are not following standard wire numbering schemes, like line
referenced or sequential then yes, you must assign each wire number with the
Edit Wire Number tool. This is cumbersome but AcadE cannot know how you
want to number wires if you are not following a standard scheme. For
example, if you are using ladders, AcadE can be configured to assign the
wire number based upon the line or rung number where it is located. A wire
on rung 100 would be wire number 100. A second wire number on the same rung
would be 100A,or 100-1, etc. You can set up this syntax in the drawing
properties. But if you have to name wires according to the function of your
machine (i.e. RAM DRIVE LEFT 24V+) you will have to do it manually.

Now just in case you are referring to the optional labels that can appear
next to a wire depicting the type of wire, those are not wire numbers; those
are wire color/gauge labels. They are inserted using the Insert Wire
Color/Gauge Labels toll under the wire leaders fly-out menu. These are
inserted one wire at a time with no leader, with a leader that you place, or
with an automatic leader. If you use Automatic leader, you can select wires
in groups using the crossing window and AcadE will insert the labels itself.
If you don't like a location where it inserted, you can use the standard
AutoCAD Move command to move it around. The color/gauge labels are actually
dimension text so you can adjust them with regular Acad commands. You can
even type dimstyle at the command prompt and adjust the font and size.


wrote in message news:5951561@discussion.autodesk.com...
What I was looking for was a way to validate the wire number(name) is the
same as the layer name. I often start out w/other folks drawings, it would
be nice if the layername & wire number matched up.

Now what I have to do is create/ fill out the wire type spreadsheet. Next
make sure the lines(wires) are on the correct layer, then update the wire
name using the edit wire number.

I hope I'm doing this wrong, because there must be an easier way!


Doug McAlexander


Design Engineer/Consultant/Instructor/Mentor specializing in AutoCAD Electrical training and implementation support

Phone and Web-based Support Plans Available

Phone: (770) 841-8009

www.linkedin.com/in/doug-mcalexander-1a77623




Please Accept as Solution if I helped you. Likes are also much appreciated.
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jlshapiro
in reply to: jlshapiro

Thx for the reply, yes I am new to ACADE. The drwgs I deal w/are not typical wiring drswings. Pure schematic drawings, no ladder dia. Still the answer for me could be a lisp, created to tie the Create/Edit Wire tool to the layers.

I wonder if a script or lisp could be created to do this, have to give it some thought....

Much thx again for your help & someone to talk to.
Message 6 of 6
Anonymous
in reply to: jlshapiro

There is a function to assign certain wire number sequences to the different
layer types.

Open a New Project/New Dwg named Default
Make sure your layers are set up properly
Set the dwg up as your new dwg
Save dwg as a TEMPLATE.
Go to Project Properties
Check the 'Based On Wire Layer' box
Select 'Layer Setup'
Set your wire numbers for particular layers (i.e. Layer 1 - A%N - starting
at 10, suits Red Phase Primary Protection CT's,
Layer 2 - A%N - starting at 30 for White Primary Protection CT's and so
on)
Test you settings and layers
Clear your dwg
Save Project
Make the WDP file read only.
When setting up a new project in the future, Have this project's path & file
name in the box marked 'Copy Settings From Project File'
New projects will then have this information loaded automatically and when
you run the Automatic Wire Numbering, wire numbers
will be assigned based on what layer the wire is actually on.


Regards Brad

wrote in message news:5951572@discussion.autodesk.com...
Thx for the reply, yes I am new to ACADE. The drwgs I deal w/are not
typical wiring drswings. Pure schematic drawings, no ladder dia. Still the
answer for me could be a lisp, created to tie the Create/Edit Wire tool to
the layers.

I wonder if a script or lisp could be created to do this, have to give it
some thought....

Much thx again for your help & someone to talk to.

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