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*Bill DeShawn
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Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard

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03-16-2008 10:15 PM
Mario says:

Subject: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard
Question: I am using Autocad2008 Electrical. I have installed all the
symbol libraries.But when I want to insert a component I am only shown the
symbols (for example 2 pole circuit breaker) according to the JIC standard.
How can I select and insert in the drawing a symbol from another standard
for example IEC? Can I change the default library from JIC standard to IEC
standard. That is when I select the Insert Component or Componet button the
IEC standard symbols are show.



Since I don't know electrical, I thought I'm pose the question for him on
his behalf on this forum.
Can you help?

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn
*Bill DeShawn
Message 2 of 8 (606 Views)

Re: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard

03-16-2008 10:17 PM in reply to: *Bill DeShawn
I found this answer:

When you install the software you choose which default standard but when you
choose your libraries to install you can install as many as you want. Then
for each project you define whether it is JIC or IEC by selecting the
Component Tagging options (can be applied to each drawing as this is a
drawing setting) and defining which library to use, i.e. JIC or IEC.

Pat Murnen


Thanks, Pat.

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877231@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:

Subject: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard
Question: I am using Autocad2008 Electrical. I have installed all the
symbol libraries.But when I want to insert a component I am only shown the
symbols (for example 2 pole circuit breaker) according to the JIC standard.
How can I select and insert in the drawing a symbol from another standard
for example IEC? Can I change the default library from JIC standard to IEC
standard. That is when I select the Insert Component or Componet button the
IEC standard symbols are show.



Since I don't know electrical, I thought I'm pose the question for him on
his behalf on this forum.
Can you help?

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn
*Bill DeShawn
Message 3 of 8 (606 Views)

Re: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard

03-17-2008 07:40 AM in reply to: *Bill DeShawn
Mario says:
Still having trouble:
First of all thanks a lot for your quick reply. I tried to do it but failed.
I selected Component Tagging but did not manage to find where I can pick
IEC. If it's not a problem can you walk me through the steps please.
THANKS

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877202@discussion.autodesk.com...
I found this answer:

When you install the software you choose which default standard but when you
choose your libraries to install you can install as many as you want. Then
for each project you define whether it is JIC or IEC by selecting the
Component Tagging options (can be applied to each drawing as this is a
drawing setting) and defining which library to use, i.e. JIC or IEC.

Pat Murnen


Thanks, Pat.

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877231@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:

Subject: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard
Question: I am using Autocad2008 Electrical. I have installed all the
symbol libraries.But when I want to insert a component I am only shown the
symbols (for example 2 pole circuit breaker) according to the JIC standard.
How can I select and insert in the drawing a symbol from another standard
for example IEC? Can I change the default library from JIC standard to IEC
standard. That is when I select the Insert Component or Componet button the
IEC standard symbols are show.



Since I don't know electrical, I thought I'm pose the question for him on
his behalf on this forum.
Can you help?

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn
*Pat Murnen
Message 4 of 8 (606 Views)

Re: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard

03-17-2008 10:07 AM in reply to: *Bill DeShawn
The project points to a particular library folder or series of folders. To
define this:
1. right-click on the project name in Project Manager
2. select Properties
3. select the Project Settings tab
4. expand the Schematic Libraries section
5. remove any folder names you do not want, for example, the c:\program
files....\jic125 and add the ones you want, for example, c:\program
files\....\iec2. The order the paths are listed are the order that AcadE
will search for a symbol on insertion. Use the buttons at the right to
Delete, Add, Browse.

To select IEC style tagging. This can be done on a per-drawing basis or as a
proejct setting. If done as a project setting it must be applied to each
drawing as shown below. Remember, when Project Settings are applied to
drawings, it is all settings not just specific ones.
1. right-click on the project name in Project Manager
2. select Properties
3. Select the Components tab.
4. In the Component TAG Options section, select Combined
Installation/Location tag mode. Select any sub-options below it depending on
your preferred format for tagging.
5. OK
6. Highlight the drawings in Project Manager you wish to apply the project
settings to.
7. Right-click and select Properties -> Apply Project Defaults.

To apply on a per-drawing basis
1. Open the drawing
2. Select Projects -> Drawing Properties
3. Select the Components tab.
4. In the Component TAG Options section, select Combined
Installation/Location tag mode. Select any sub-options below it depending on
your preferred format for tagging.
5. OK

Hope this helps,
Pat Murnen

"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877486@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:
Still having trouble:
First of all thanks a lot for your quick reply. I tried to do it but failed.
I selected Component Tagging but did not manage to find where I can pick
IEC. If it's not a problem can you walk me through the steps please.
THANKS

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877202@discussion.autodesk.com...
I found this answer:

When you install the software you choose which default standard but when you
choose your libraries to install you can install as many as you want. Then
for each project you define whether it is JIC or IEC by selecting the
Component Tagging options (can be applied to each drawing as this is a
drawing setting) and defining which library to use, i.e. JIC or IEC.

Pat Murnen


Thanks, Pat.

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877231@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:

Subject: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard
Question: I am using Autocad2008 Electrical. I have installed all the
symbol libraries.But when I want to insert a component I am only shown the
symbols (for example 2 pole circuit breaker) according to the JIC standard.
How can I select and insert in the drawing a symbol from another standard
for example IEC? Can I change the default library from JIC standard to IEC
standard. That is when I select the Insert Component or Componet button the
IEC standard symbols are show.



Since I don't know electrical, I thought I'm pose the question for him on
his behalf on this forum.
Can you help?

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn
*Bill DeShawn
Message 5 of 8 (606 Views)

Re: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard

03-18-2008 10:15 PM in reply to: *Bill DeShawn
Thanks Pat! That was very generous of you to type all that out!

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Pat Murnen" wrote in message
news:5877758@discussion.autodesk.com...
The project points to a particular library folder or series of folders. To
define this:
1. right-click on the project name in Project Manager
2. select Properties
3. select the Project Settings tab
4. expand the Schematic Libraries section
5. remove any folder names you do not want, for example, the c:\program
files....\jic125 and add the ones you want, for example, c:\program
files\....\iec2. The order the paths are listed are the order that AcadE
will search for a symbol on insertion. Use the buttons at the right to
Delete, Add, Browse.

To select IEC style tagging. This can be done on a per-drawing basis or as a
proejct setting. If done as a project setting it must be applied to each
drawing as shown below. Remember, when Project Settings are applied to
drawings, it is all settings not just specific ones.
1. right-click on the project name in Project Manager
2. select Properties
3. Select the Components tab.
4. In the Component TAG Options section, select Combined
Installation/Location tag mode. Select any sub-options below it depending on
your preferred format for tagging.
5. OK
6. Highlight the drawings in Project Manager you wish to apply the project
settings to.
7. Right-click and select Properties -> Apply Project Defaults.

To apply on a per-drawing basis
1. Open the drawing
2. Select Projects -> Drawing Properties
3. Select the Components tab.
4. In the Component TAG Options section, select Combined
Installation/Location tag mode. Select any sub-options below it depending on
your preferred format for tagging.
5. OK

Hope this helps,
Pat Murnen

"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877486@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:
Still having trouble:
First of all thanks a lot for your quick reply. I tried to do it but failed.
I selected Component Tagging but did not manage to find where I can pick
IEC. If it's not a problem can you walk me through the steps please.
THANKS

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877202@discussion.autodesk.com...
I found this answer:

When you install the software you choose which default standard but when you
choose your libraries to install you can install as many as you want. Then
for each project you define whether it is JIC or IEC by selecting the
Component Tagging options (can be applied to each drawing as this is a
drawing setting) and defining which library to use, i.e. JIC or IEC.

Pat Murnen


Thanks, Pat.

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877231@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:

Subject: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard
Question: I am using Autocad2008 Electrical. I have installed all the
symbol libraries.But when I want to insert a component I am only shown the
symbols (for example 2 pole circuit breaker) according to the JIC standard.
How can I select and insert in the drawing a symbol from another standard
for example IEC? Can I change the default library from JIC standard to IEC
standard. That is when I select the Insert Component or Componet button the
IEC standard symbols are show.



Since I don't know electrical, I thought I'm pose the question for him on
his behalf on this forum.
Can you help?

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn
*Pat Murnen
Message 6 of 8 (606 Views)

Re: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard

03-19-2008 04:53 AM in reply to: *Bill DeShawn
No problem. Hope it helps.

Pat Murnen

"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5879683@discussion.autodesk.com...
Thanks Pat! That was very generous of you to type all that out!

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Pat Murnen" wrote in message
news:5877758@discussion.autodesk.com...
The project points to a particular library folder or series of folders. To
define this:
1. right-click on the project name in Project Manager
2. select Properties
3. select the Project Settings tab
4. expand the Schematic Libraries section
5. remove any folder names you do not want, for example, the c:\program
files....\jic125 and add the ones you want, for example, c:\program
files\....\iec2. The order the paths are listed are the order that AcadE
will search for a symbol on insertion. Use the buttons at the right to
Delete, Add, Browse.

To select IEC style tagging. This can be done on a per-drawing basis or as a
proejct setting. If done as a project setting it must be applied to each
drawing as shown below. Remember, when Project Settings are applied to
drawings, it is all settings not just specific ones.
1. right-click on the project name in Project Manager
2. select Properties
3. Select the Components tab.
4. In the Component TAG Options section, select Combined
Installation/Location tag mode. Select any sub-options below it depending on
your preferred format for tagging.
5. OK
6. Highlight the drawings in Project Manager you wish to apply the project
settings to.
7. Right-click and select Properties -> Apply Project Defaults.

To apply on a per-drawing basis
1. Open the drawing
2. Select Projects -> Drawing Properties
3. Select the Components tab.
4. In the Component TAG Options section, select Combined
Installation/Location tag mode. Select any sub-options below it depending on
your preferred format for tagging.
5. OK

Hope this helps,
Pat Murnen

"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877486@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:
Still having trouble:
First of all thanks a lot for your quick reply. I tried to do it but failed.
I selected Component Tagging but did not manage to find where I can pick
IEC. If it's not a problem can you walk me through the steps please.
THANKS

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877202@discussion.autodesk.com...
I found this answer:

When you install the software you choose which default standard but when you
choose your libraries to install you can install as many as you want. Then
for each project you define whether it is JIC or IEC by selecting the
Component Tagging options (can be applied to each drawing as this is a
drawing setting) and defining which library to use, i.e. JIC or IEC.

Pat Murnen


Thanks, Pat.

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877231@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:

Subject: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard
Question: I am using Autocad2008 Electrical. I have installed all the
symbol libraries.But when I want to insert a component I am only shown the
symbols (for example 2 pole circuit breaker) according to the JIC standard.
How can I select and insert in the drawing a symbol from another standard
for example IEC? Can I change the default library from JIC standard to IEC
standard. That is when I select the Insert Component or Componet button the
IEC standard symbols are show.



Since I don't know electrical, I thought I'm pose the question for him on
his behalf on this forum.
Can you help?

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn
*Bill DeShawn
Message 7 of 8 (606 Views)

Re: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard

03-19-2008 07:38 AM in reply to: *Bill DeShawn
Mario says:

Thanks for your great help.You solved my problem. I also had to alter the
Schematic Icon Menu File from ACE_JIC_MENU.DAT to ACE_IEC_MENU.DAT (After
step 4 from the first block of hints). Kindly express my big thanks to Mr P
Murnen and thanks also to you too. Please also forward the above note. T H A
N K Y O U


--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Pat Murnen" wrote in message
news:5879845@discussion.autodesk.com...
No problem. Hope it helps.

Pat Murnen

"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5879683@discussion.autodesk.com...
Thanks Pat! That was very generous of you to type all that out!

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Pat Murnen" wrote in message
news:5877758@discussion.autodesk.com...
The project points to a particular library folder or series of folders. To
define this:
1. right-click on the project name in Project Manager
2. select Properties
3. select the Project Settings tab
4. expand the Schematic Libraries section
5. remove any folder names you do not want, for example, the c:\program
files....\jic125 and add the ones you want, for example, c:\program
files\....\iec2. The order the paths are listed are the order that AcadE
will search for a symbol on insertion. Use the buttons at the right to
Delete, Add, Browse.

To select IEC style tagging. This can be done on a per-drawing basis or as a
proejct setting. If done as a project setting it must be applied to each
drawing as shown below. Remember, when Project Settings are applied to
drawings, it is all settings not just specific ones.
1. right-click on the project name in Project Manager
2. select Properties
3. Select the Components tab.
4. In the Component TAG Options section, select Combined
Installation/Location tag mode. Select any sub-options below it depending on
your preferred format for tagging.
5. OK
6. Highlight the drawings in Project Manager you wish to apply the project
settings to.
7. Right-click and select Properties -> Apply Project Defaults.

To apply on a per-drawing basis
1. Open the drawing
2. Select Projects -> Drawing Properties
3. Select the Components tab.
4. In the Component TAG Options section, select Combined
Installation/Location tag mode. Select any sub-options below it depending on
your preferred format for tagging.
5. OK

Hope this helps,
Pat Murnen

"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877486@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:
Still having trouble:
First of all thanks a lot for your quick reply. I tried to do it but failed.
I selected Component Tagging but did not manage to find where I can pick
IEC. If it's not a problem can you walk me through the steps please.
THANKS

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877202@discussion.autodesk.com...
I found this answer:

When you install the software you choose which default standard but when you
choose your libraries to install you can install as many as you want. Then
for each project you define whether it is JIC or IEC by selecting the
Component Tagging options (can be applied to each drawing as this is a
drawing setting) and defining which library to use, i.e. JIC or IEC.

Pat Murnen


Thanks, Pat.

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877231@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:

Subject: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard
Question: I am using Autocad2008 Electrical. I have installed all the
symbol libraries.But when I want to insert a component I am only shown the
symbols (for example 2 pole circuit breaker) according to the JIC standard.
How can I select and insert in the drawing a symbol from another standard
for example IEC? Can I change the default library from JIC standard to IEC
standard. That is when I select the Insert Component or Componet button the
IEC standard symbols are show.



Since I don't know electrical, I thought I'm pose the question for him on
his behalf on this forum.
Can you help?

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn
*Pat Murnen
Message 8 of 8 (606 Views)

Re: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard

03-19-2008 08:01 AM in reply to: *Bill DeShawn
Yes, good point about the menu. I forgot about that. I will log that this
would be a good topic to add in the help.

Thanks,
Pat

"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5880079@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:

Thanks for your great help.You solved my problem. I also had to alter the
Schematic Icon Menu File from ACE_JIC_MENU.DAT to ACE_IEC_MENU.DAT (After
step 4 from the first block of hints). Kindly express my big thanks to Mr P
Murnen and thanks also to you too. Please also forward the above note. T H A
N K Y O U


--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Pat Murnen" wrote in message
news:5879845@discussion.autodesk.com...
No problem. Hope it helps.

Pat Murnen

"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5879683@discussion.autodesk.com...
Thanks Pat! That was very generous of you to type all that out!

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Pat Murnen" wrote in message
news:5877758@discussion.autodesk.com...
The project points to a particular library folder or series of folders. To
define this:
1. right-click on the project name in Project Manager
2. select Properties
3. select the Project Settings tab
4. expand the Schematic Libraries section
5. remove any folder names you do not want, for example, the c:\program
files....\jic125 and add the ones you want, for example, c:\program
files\....\iec2. The order the paths are listed are the order that AcadE
will search for a symbol on insertion. Use the buttons at the right to
Delete, Add, Browse.

To select IEC style tagging. This can be done on a per-drawing basis or as a
proejct setting. If done as a project setting it must be applied to each
drawing as shown below. Remember, when Project Settings are applied to
drawings, it is all settings not just specific ones.
1. right-click on the project name in Project Manager
2. select Properties
3. Select the Components tab.
4. In the Component TAG Options section, select Combined
Installation/Location tag mode. Select any sub-options below it depending on
your preferred format for tagging.
5. OK
6. Highlight the drawings in Project Manager you wish to apply the project
settings to.
7. Right-click and select Properties -> Apply Project Defaults.

To apply on a per-drawing basis
1. Open the drawing
2. Select Projects -> Drawing Properties
3. Select the Components tab.
4. In the Component TAG Options section, select Combined
Installation/Location tag mode. Select any sub-options below it depending on
your preferred format for tagging.
5. OK

Hope this helps,
Pat Murnen

"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877486@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:
Still having trouble:
First of all thanks a lot for your quick reply. I tried to do it but failed.
I selected Component Tagging but did not manage to find where I can pick
IEC. If it's not a problem can you walk me through the steps please.
THANKS

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877202@discussion.autodesk.com...
I found this answer:

When you install the software you choose which default standard but when you
choose your libraries to install you can install as many as you want. Then
for each project you define whether it is JIC or IEC by selecting the
Component Tagging options (can be applied to each drawing as this is a
drawing setting) and defining which library to use, i.e. JIC or IEC.

Pat Murnen


Thanks, Pat.

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn


"Bill DeShawn" wrote in message
news:5877231@discussion.autodesk.com...
Mario says:

Subject: Changing Defaults- JIC to IEC Standard
Question: I am using Autocad2008 Electrical. I have installed all the
symbol libraries.But when I want to insert a component I am only shown the
symbols (for example 2 pole circuit breaker) according to the JIC standard.
How can I select and insert in the drawing a symbol from another standard
for example IEC? Can I change the default library from JIC standard to IEC
standard. That is when I select the Insert Component or Componet button the
IEC standard symbols are show.



Since I don't know electrical, I thought I'm pose the question for him on
his behalf on this forum.
Can you help?

--
_________________________

Bill DeShawn
bdeshawn@nospamsterling.net
http://my.sterling.net/~bdeshawn

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