• Industries
  • Products
  • Buy
  • Services & Support
  • Communities
  • Discussion Groups

    AutoCAD Civil 3D

    Reply
    Contributor
    nimadadgar57
    Posts: 23
    Registered: ‎01-29-2011

    how to Define Vegetable soil Thickness when Calculating Earthwork Volumes

    269 Views, 3 Replies
    01-26-2012 05:49 AM

    when i want to Calculate Earthwork Volumes there are some factors : 

     

    • The Cut factor is typically used as an expansion factor for excavated material. It is usually 1.0 or higher.
    • The Fill factor is typically used as a compaction factor for fill material. It is usually 1.0 or higher.
    • The Refill factor indicates what percentage of cut material can be reused as fill. It should be 1.0 or lower. 

    but no one aren't use full for exactly Define the Vegetable soil Thickness in cut and fill, is there another way?

     

     

    C3D 2012,

    AMD phenom II 3.4GHZ 6 core CPU,

    16 GB RAM DDR5,

    60GB SSD + 1000GB HDD
    NVidia Quadro 4000 running driver version 276.14 without Performance driver

    Win 7 64-bit professional,

     

       

    Please use plain text.
    *Expert Elite*
    Posts: 1,754
    Registered: ‎12-18-2002

    Re: how to Define Vegetable soil Thickness when Calculating Earthwork Volumes

    01-26-2012 09:56 AM in reply to: nimadadgar57

    If this is a constant value you could copy the og surface, raise it the thickness of the veg surface, and then use Volumes to compare the two surfaces.

     

    It's not a 'factor' but it makes it fast and easy to get the number.

    Tim Corey, Owner
    Delta Engineering Systems
    Redding, CA
    Autodesk Authorized Value-Added Reseller
    Please use plain text.
    Valued Mentor
    Posts: 277
    Registered: ‎09-23-2008

    Re: how to Define Vegetable soil Thickness when Calculating Earthwork Volumes

    01-26-2012 01:22 PM in reply to: nimadadgar57

    That's also how we do it. Paste the existing ground surface into a stripped surface and lower the stripped surface by 6 inches, or however much it needs to be. That way you get a rough volume on stripping  and you take the revised eg into account when filling back up again.

    Please use plain text.
    *Expert Elite*
    neilyj
    Posts: 2,689
    Registered: ‎08-01-2008

    Re: how to Define Vegetable soil Thickness when Calculating Earthwork Volumes

    01-27-2012 02:39 AM in reply to: KirkNoonan

    I use this approach:

     

    Input the organic soil thicknesses obtained from trial pits/boreholes etc etc into Civil 3D such that the Z value is the thickness in your local units e.g. 0.3m, 0.25m, 0.175m etc and call it e.g. SOIL THKS

     

    Create a volume surface (VOLSURF) with SOIL THKS as Base and EGL as Comparison surface to give a volume surface where the Z value is the level of the base of organic soil

     

    Create new Surface (BASE OF SOIL) and paste VOLSURF into it and now you have a normal TIN surface of Base of Soil to use as required. This surface remains dynamic so any new soil thickness info is automatically included.  This method assumes interpolated soil thicknesses between site investigation locations (which may not be a valid assumption) so additional dummy thicknesses may be needed as required.

     

    A similar technique can be used to create base of construction (i.e. earthworks formation) level surfaces knowing the finished levels and construction thicknesses e.g. heavy duty road, footpath, landscape area etc.

    neilyj
    (No connection with Autodesk other than using the products in the real world)


    IDSP Premium 2014 (mainly Civil 3D 2014 but also 3ds Max Design)
    Win 7 Pro x64, 256Gb SSD, 300Gb 15,000 rpm HDD
    16Gb Ram Intel Xeon CPU E5-1607 0 @ 3.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
    NVIDIA Quadro 4000, Dual 27" Monitor, Dell T3600
    Please use plain text.