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    Distinguished Contributor
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    constant slope

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    10-04-2012 08:31 AM

    i am doing a notch & widen. i have 2 subassembles defining the lane from the centerline to the curb. when i have an alignment on the edge of pavement with a profile, the whole lane does not elevate. it only elevates the second subassem. i would like from the CL to the edge of pavement to "superelevate". instead, its like a broken lane. see picture for clarification. its not a constant slope from "CL" to "EOP". the slope is "broken" at "N".

     

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    Joe-Bouza
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    Re: constant slope

    10-04-2012 08:46 AM in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

    On the construction tab "Parameter reference" of the assembly you can tell sub 1 to get cross slope from sub 2

     

    parameter reference.PNG

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    Re: constant slope

    10-04-2012 09:10 AM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

    i see what your saying, and found where i need to change all of it, but cant get it to work. say the "left" subassem. is A and the "right" is B. which one do i need to tell to get the slope from? it seems even if i change one, two, or both it still doesnt want to change my cross slope in my sections. i am using lanesuperelevationAOR on one side, and a link on the other trying to get it to work.

     

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    Re: constant slope

    10-04-2012 09:31 AM in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

    You say you have a profile controling the sub at the EOP - is the target asigned in the corridor?

     

    Lets confirm a naming convention here. working from the CL left:

     

    The link is :A

    The pavement is B

    The curb and SW is : C

     I have only done this assigning A to B, but in theory it should work.  nope. I cannot get an assigment to the inside assembly. Sorry

     

    If you want it to act as one, why two peices?

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    Re: constant slope

    10-04-2012 09:34 AM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

    ok, thanks. because this is a notch and widening. we are cutting the existing road and then widening it. the existing road is "under" my link.

     

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    Re: constant slope

    10-04-2012 10:59 AM in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

    Thats what I thought you were doing, but if so how can you rotate back to the crown?

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    Re: constant slope

    10-04-2012 11:34 AM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

    thats my problem. i cant get a constant slope out of two lane subassem. with a profile on the edge of pavement. it seems this is going to be difficult and im going to have to create yet another profile. maybe we are missing something. thanks for helping.

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    Re: constant slope

    10-04-2012 01:32 PM in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

    maybe we aren't on the the same page?

     

    you say you are widening from the edge but want to rotate about the crown? that would require replacing to the crown, No?

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    Re: constant slope

    10-04-2012 01:43 PM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

    we are widening the whole road. we cut the edge of the existing road off, and lay a couple inches of asphalt over the existing road to smooth out the whole process. since we are adding the couple inches to the centerline, its above the existing road. i would like to rotate the whole thing from the center out to the new edge of asphalt. the "link" in my assembly represents where the existing lane is. the new lane subassem. represents the widening. i have a profile grade at the edge of pavement because its not a constant slope. i am trying to have the whole lane, from centerline to edge of asphalt adjust to the profile along the edge of asphalt, but what happens is my "link" is staying at the defined slope. then, my widening lane adjusts to the profile, as seen in the picture. thats why it kind of looks like a "V". both subassem.'s are not "rotating" as one to the profile elevation at the edge of asphalt. let me know if this clears it up, or if you need another screen shot of something.

     

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    Re: constant slope

    10-04-2012 02:02 PM in reply to: MonkeyTrainer

    You know there are rehab assemblies for that, right?

     

    I just did the very same thing. I prefer to use the OM&L2 and attach a lane suupe AOR and assign the cross slope from the OML2.

    So instead of trying to develop a profile for all that to happen the OML2 takes care of it

     

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