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    Working with MrSids aerials are really slow Civil 3D 12 & 13

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    01-10-2013 09:40 AM

    For whatever reason, working with MrSids aerials with Civil 3D 2012 & 2013 is really slow these days.  Three of us CAD techs have Dell Precision T3500 PC's with 24 GB of RAM with Windows 7.  I worked with the same aerials 4 years ago using ust 4 GB of RAM with Windows XP.  Is there a better type of aerial technology to work with rather than the MrSid aerials? Should we try to get the County to purchase another type of aerial technology to more easily depict the County so we can more quickly produce aerial roadways with stationed alignments..  Dave

     

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    Re: Working with MrSids aerials are really slow Civil 3D 12 & 13

    01-10-2013 11:26 AM in reply to: lissaucad

    Are you attaching these as FDO connections, or are you inserting the image into the drawing?

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    Re: Working with MrSids aerials are really slow Civil 3D 12 & 13

    01-10-2013 11:35 AM in reply to: lissaucad

    lissaucad wrote:

    Is there a better type of aerial technology to work with rather than the MrSid aerials?


    Yes sir, connect to a WMS server.

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    Re: Working with MrSids aerials are really slow Civil 3D 12 & 13

    01-10-2013 11:46 AM in reply to: antoniovinci

    do you find that those types of images are handled more easily by C3D?   I'm not very familiar with wms servers.   Does your firm pay to have access to these or are there free one's out there?

     

     

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    Re: Working with MrSids aerials are really slow Civil 3D 12 & 13

    01-10-2013 11:47 AM in reply to: dgordon

    There are some free WMS servers out there.  If I have a SID image, I usually just "connect" it rather than insert the image.  Performance is much better.

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    Re: Working with MrSids aerials are really slow Civil 3D 12 & 13

    01-10-2013 11:54 AM in reply to: dgordon

    There are lots of free WMS services with imagery, but WMS servers will only serve the content of the service provider. Usually their offerings are old and/or low resolution and load times may not be any better than loading your own imagery.

     

    If you have specific imagery that you want to use you'll need to reference them locally. Autocad has always been doggy with imagery. Using Map's FDO connection vs. inserting can improve performance and it also allows for the imagery to dynamically reproject to different coordinate systems. The down side to FDO and WMS is the images won't load for users who don't have Map.

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    Re: Working with MrSids aerials are really slow Civil 3D 12 & 13

    01-10-2013 12:32 PM in reply to: TRogers

    i did a fdo connect to raster image of one of our sid files and i did not notice any difference in performance over just having the image inserted into the drawing.

     

    i'm finding it very difficult to find a free wms service to connect to.   quite often it asks for user name and password of which i  have neither.

     

    anyone have any suggestions?

     

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    Re: Working with MrSids aerials are really slow Civil 3D 12 & 13

    01-10-2013 12:36 PM in reply to: dgordon

    Username and password are usually blank, you just hit OK.  Here is a link to some good WMS sites with username and password info...

     

    http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/gis/ogcwms.html

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    Re: Working with MrSids aerials are really slow Civil 3D 12 & 13

    01-10-2013 01:07 PM in reply to: TRogers

    do any of these web services work for you?

     

    NAIP Imagery - What's NAIP?
    http://ge-nt.ncmhtd.com/cgi-bin/naip2010.cgi? - NAIP 2010
    http://ge-nt.ncmhtd.com/cgi-bin/naip2010ir.cgi? - NAIP 2010 IR
    http://ge-nt.ncmhtd.com/cgi-bin/naip2009.cgi? - NAIP 2009
    http://ge-nt.ncmhtd.com/cgi-bin/naip2009ir.cgi? - NAIP 2009 IR
    http://ge-nt.ncmhtd.com/cgi-bin/naip2008.cgi? - NAIP 2008
    http://ge-nt.ncmhtd.com/cgi-bin/naip2006.cgi? - NAIP 2006

    1998 DOQQs - What are DOQQs?
    http://ge-nt.ncmhtd.com/cgi-bin/doqq1998.cgi? - DOQQ 1998
    http://ge-nt.ncmhtd.com/cgi-bin/doqq1998.cgi? - DOQQ 1998 IR

     

    I can't get any of them to connect.

     

    I get this message every time

     

    fdo connect error.png

    Dan

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    Re: Working with MrSids aerials are really slow Civil 3D 12 & 13

    01-10-2013 01:21 PM in reply to: dgordon

    Works for me, but if you scroll to the bottom of the website I sent you, there are links to better places.  The ones you listed are exclusive to North Carolina.  The links are under the WMS Indexes and Servers.

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