What is Civil 3D and Civil 3D Design?

[Anonymous]

Time for a subscription renewal and this question couldn't be clarified by
the Autodesk consultant to what the difference is.

What is "Civil 3D Design" and what is "Civil 3D"?

As a two-person engineering division in a design-build construction company,
compatibility with others is not a significant factor. We have stopped
using our Land Desktop (with Civil Design) and moved to work exclusively in
Civil 3D. We use Map for some things that don't require the capability of
C3D. Any old projects that were created in LDT are still in 2006 and we
won't use LDT 2007.

Is this an elaborate marketing scheme or just confusion in product naming
where everything you buy has "Civil 3D" in the name?


Many thanks,


Chuck Litchfield
The Saunders Company

Civil 3D 2007, SP1a

[Anonymous]

Chuck Litchfield wrote:
> Time for a subscription renewal and this question couldn't be clarified by
> the Autodesk consultant to what the difference is.
>
> What is "Civil 3D Design" and what is "Civil 3D"?
>
> As a two-person engineering division in a design-build construction company,
> compatibility with others is not a significant factor. We have stopped
> using our Land Desktop (with Civil Design) and moved to work exclusively in
> Civil 3D. We use Map for some things that don't require the capability of
> C3D. Any old projects that were created in LDT are still in 2006 and we
> won't use LDT 2007.
>
> Is this an elaborate marketing scheme or just confusion in product naming
> where everything you buy has "Civil 3D" in the name?


It's like deja vu, all over again.

This has been discussed in great depth on this forum. There
Civil 3D Design. There are three programs available to you:

1) Civil 3D.
2) Civil 3D Land Desktop Companion - this is regular ol' Land Desktop
3) Civil 3D Civil Design Companion - this is regular ol' Civil Design.

If you've moved to Civil 3D, then you need to buy Civil 3D. That's it,
nothing else.

Anthony, are you listening??? 😉



--
Jason Hickey

Civil 3D 2007, SP1A
Dell Precision M70
2 GIG RAM, 256 MB nVidia Quadro FX Go1400
Intel Centrino 2 gHz Processor

www.civil3d.com

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't call it elaborate.........it would take a couple of other words
to accurately describe what type of marketing scheme it is.

I love the product, by the way............Marketing...........well......it's
unfortunate that they make some of the decisions that they do. Their
hurting their own cause, it would seem to me.

"Chuck Litchfield" wrote in message
news:5316000@discussion.autodesk.com...

What is "Civil 3D Design" and what is "Civil 3D"?

Is this an elaborate marketing scheme or just confusion in product naming
where everything you buy has "Civil 3D" in the name?

[anthony.governanti]

I am listening, and as discussed before, its out of my hands. Is this
happening enough that we need a technical document to explain it better? I
thought we had put it in the FAQ, I'll have to check.

AG
"TomD" wrote in message
news:5316013@discussion.autodesk.com...
I wouldn't call it elaborate.........it would take a couple of other words
to accurately describe what type of marketing scheme it is.

I love the product, by the way............Marketing...........well......it's
unfortunate that they make some of the decisions that they do. Their
hurting their own cause, it would seem to me.

"Chuck Litchfield" wrote in message
news:5316000@discussion.autodesk.com...

What is "Civil 3D Design" and what is "Civil 3D"?

Is this an elaborate marketing scheme or just confusion in product naming
where everything you buy has "Civil 3D" in the name?

[Anonymous]

governa wrote:
> I am listening, and as discussed before, its out of my hands. Is this
> happening enough that we need a technical document to explain it better? I
> thought we had put it in the FAQ, I'll have to check.


I really think so. I don't think it should be long and elaborate, just
explaining what the various options are. I've written it a few times
a week for almost a year, why don't you use my copy? 😉

I'm going to have a T-shirt made that says "How do I install Civil
Design into Civil 3D" and wear it to Manchester in October. Then I
think I'll take it off and stick it down someone's throat.... 😉

--
Jason Hickey
www.civil3d.com

[Anonymous]

Manchester in October?

Should I be looking for some flannel underwear after Thursday's meet up?

--

Murph
The world is not FLAT so why is your GIS data?
http://mappingitout.blogspot.com/

<"Jason Hickey" wrote in message
news:5316460@discussion.autodesk.com...

[Anonymous]

simplistic, but does the job- read article linked below

http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/2006/06/civil-3d-vs-land-desktop-civil-design.html


anthony- that is another $5

--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
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[Anonymous]

James Murphy wrote:
> Manchester in October?
>
> Should I be looking for some flannel underwear after Thursday's meet up?

Hmmmm.

That's a good question.

Right now, I'm going to lean toward "no, I don't think so," but we'll
have to wait and see what the complete game plan is. Unless, that is,
I'm supposed to be the one creating said game plan....

--
Jason Hickey
www.civil3d.com

[Anonymous]

I think you're the one that not only is suppose to create the game plan but
also the one calling the plays into the quarterback.

--

Murph
The world is not FLAT so why is your GIS data?
http://mappingitout.blogspot.com/


"Jason Hickey" wrote ...
>Hmmmm.

>That's a good question.

>Right now, I'm going to lean toward "no, I don't think so," but we'll
>have to wait and see what the complete game plan is. Unless, that is,
>I'm supposed to be the one creating said game plan....

>--
>Jason Hickey
>www.civil3d.com

[Anonymous]

James Murphy wrote:
> I think you're the one that not only is suppose to create the game plan but
> also the one calling the plays into the quarterback.
>

Interestingly enough, I'm also the quarterback. And the center. And
the offensive line. And the team doctor. And the waterboy.



--
Jason Hickey
www.civil3d.com

[anthony.governanti]

We'll work to get this posted as an article to the Civil Community once its
public.

For now, just add it to my bill, and we'll settle up at year's end.


--
Anthony Governanti
Autodesk, Inc.
www.autodesk.com/civil3d
"Dana Breig Probert" wrote in message
news:5316586@discussion.autodesk.com...
simplistic, but does the job- read article linked below

http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/2006/06/civil-3d-vs-land-desktop-civil-design.html


anthony- that is another $5

--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
----------------------------------------------

[Anonymous]

I think wanting to put it into an FAQ is just more evidence of the problem.

To many watching these NGs, it is no big deal. We get it. We're geeks,
though. You're going to scare off prospective customers by the loads of BS
they have to go through trying to figure out what the product even is.

Other comments withheld........I'm not trying to pound you......I just find
this whole situation extremely questionable. It is frustrating since the
product (overall) is very good and shows so much promise for the future.

wrote in message news:5316063@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am listening, and as discussed before, its out of my hands. Is this
happening enough that we need a technical document to explain it better? I
thought we had put it in the FAQ, I'll have to check.

AG
"TomD" wrote in message
news:5316013@discussion.autodesk.com...
I wouldn't call it elaborate.........it would take a couple of other words
to accurately describe what type of marketing scheme it is.

I love the product, by the way............Marketing...........well......it's
unfortunate that they make some of the decisions that they do. Their
hurting their own cause, it would seem to me.

[anthony.governanti]

Questionable in what way?

--
Anthony Governanti
Autodesk, Inc.
www.autodesk.com/civil3d
"TomD" wrote in message
news:5317139@discussion.autodesk.com...
I think wanting to put it into an FAQ is just more evidence of the problem.

To many watching these NGs, it is no big deal. We get it. We're geeks,
though. You're going to scare off prospective customers by the loads of BS
they have to go through trying to figure out what the product even is.

Other comments withheld........I'm not trying to pound you......I just find
this whole situation extremely questionable. It is frustrating since the
product (overall) is very good and shows so much promise for the future.