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    sjg
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    Site Design with Major site revision

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    10-02-2012 07:00 AM
    Have a site plan and about to make a revision to builiding layout, storm, sanitary, parking layout. Have a project folder, with Drawings subfolder, and then subfolder for Model Files and Sheet Files. How do most go about archiving the original drawings without affecting shortcuts and xrefs.
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    Re: Site Design with Major site revision

    10-02-2012 07:18 AM in reply to: sjg

    If it is a complete redesign I will archive the entire project (copy the whole project folder to the archive location and/or backup offsite) and then start modifying the original files as necessary. It's totally up to you and what works for your company though.

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    AllenJessup
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    Re: Site Design with Major site revision

    10-02-2012 07:48 AM in reply to: sjg

    It depends on how you would restore the file if you needed to revert. If you would restore it to the original directory, under the original name, you would not have to do anything. If the Xrefs are attached as Full Path there should be no problems with the archived file unless you move the Xrefs. The shortcuts are also full path so the drawing should find them even if it's moved as long as they are in the original location.

     

    If all else fails you can use the Data shortcuts Editor and repath the xrefs. I just tried opening a backup of a drawing stored on a local drive and it found the shortcuts and xrefs no problem even though the original was on a network drive and the xrefs and shortcuts file still are.

     

    One thing I found out the hard way. Don't backup your shortcuts to a folder below the project folder. I had recently backed up the _shortcuts folder from just below the project folder to <Project>\Archive\_shortcuts\.befor changing the paths to the source drawings. When I tried to use the Data Shortcuts Editor it looked like I still had all the old shortcut paths as well as the new ones. I backed up he ones I thought I had change and tried again. It got worse. Now I had many duplicate shortcuts. It wasn't until I realized that each time I backed them up I saw them multiplying that I figured out the Data Shortcuts Editor was finding all the backed up shortcuts too. Once I moved them outside the Project path the problem went away. So don't do what I did.:smileywink:

     

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    Re: Site Design with Major site revision

    10-02-2012 09:43 AM in reply to: AllenJessup

    For a major revision such as described in the opening post, we typically use the "Publish" - "e-transmit" route and save the contents to a CD or a USB thumb drive. The USB thumb drives are cheap and easy to store and so are becoming the storage mechanism of choice.

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    sjg
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    Re: Site Design with Major site revision

    10-02-2012 10:04 AM in reply to: rwhitlock1
    Yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of e-transmit. How do you go about e-transmitting an entire folder in my case Drawings folder, which has subfolders within.
    Steve Goessling
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    Re: Site Design with Major site revision

    10-02-2012 10:32 AM in reply to: sjg

    My experience is that Acad will find the subfolders, x-refs and data shortcuts that link to the project files. The e-transmit pull-down has a nice directory tree structure that will provide visual feedback of the files / folders that are being collected.  We have tested this with sheet sets and all the project data restored as expected.

     

    If another end user is going to receive the files, they may have to re-path data shortcuts but that is not too involved.

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    johnm
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    Re: Site Design with Major site revision

    10-02-2012 10:58 AM in reply to: sjg

    With most of our small to mid sized projects, the design and design labels are in 1-3 dwg files and they get xrefed into the sheet files with the base topo and existing parcels. When major revisions arise we open the design files and rename to mark the revision. We modifiy these files. Then we just swap the xref's and add a revision date to the sheet.

     

     

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