Plot Scale field in Sheet Sets

[neilyj666]

Trying to set up SSM with template that fills in Scale of drawing but having a problem...

I've used a field which is populated by PlotScale but what I really want is the viewport scale.

My templates are in paper space at 1:1 so this is what the PlotScale field always inserts (correctly), I changed the plot Scale and the field changed accordingly.

Can the viewport scale be used in a field or does it need to be input manually as a Custom Sheet property on a per sheet basis OR am I missing something fundamental with the PlotScale field??

Thanks

[gccdaemon]

I use a sheet set custom per sheet property. I set a default scale of say 1" = 20' so that I don't have to fuss with sheets that are "standard" scale. If you want to link it to a viewport, you'll have to link it to the object it's self, and you'd have to do that per sheet (somewhat of a hassle).

[Joe-Bouza]

Ideally, SSM expects you to create your viewports by inserting saved views that have a SSM view label  attached to them (see SSM Best practices 

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/AutoCAD-Civil-3D/Setting-up-template-for-use-with-Sheet-Set-Manager/m-...)

and if you wanted to adjust the view scale SSM would expect you to remove the vport and drag and drop a new one in with the new scale.

If you don't wish to use this feature of SSM (although I would encourage you to read up on it) you could create a vport then add an object field connected to its scale, wblock it to your standard folder or where ever, and insert this into new drawings instead of creating new Mviews. That field will come along for the ride and adjust dynamically.  

[neilyj666]

Thanks for the replies - just need to find a few spare hours to go through the SSM information I now have....

[Joe-Bouza]

Take my word for it - you'll need more than a few hours. My advice take it slow and add a few trick as you go

[stacy.dunn]

Another option is to use a field that is tied to the viewports custom scale property.  To access this create a field and then select the viewport using the object category.  You can then select Custom scale from the property list.  You will have to select no formatting options and then use this value in another formula.  You will end up with a field that looks like this in the editor.

%<\AcExpr (1/%<\AcObjProp Object(%<\_ObjId -2050520>%).CustomScale \f "%lu2%qf2816">%) \f "%lu2%pr0">%

[neilyj666]

Another option is to use a field that is tied to the viewports custom scale property.  To access this create a field and then select the viewport using the object category.  You can then select Custom scale from the property list.  You will have to select no formatting options and then use this value in another formula.  You will end up with a field that looks like this in the editor.

%<\AcExpr (1/%<\AcObjProp Object(%<\_ObjId -2050520>%).CustomScale \f "%lu2%qf2816">%) \f "%lu2%pr0">%

Thanks for this - I tried this and selected the Use Scale Name option which generated a field code as below:

%<\AcObjProp.16.2 Object(%<\_ObjId 8796087383536>%,1).CustomScale \f "%sn">%

[neilyj666]

Another option is to use a field that is tied to the viewports custom scale property.  To access this create a field and then select the viewport using the object category.  You can then select Custom scale from the property list.  You will have to select no formatting options and then use this value in another formula.  You will end up with a field that looks like this in the editor.

%<\AcExpr (1/%<\AcObjProp Object(%<\_ObjId -2050520>%).CustomScale \f "%lu2%qf2816">%) \f "%lu2%pr0">%

[neilyj666]

Nearly there with SSM and fields BUT when I printed out a test there are little lines in the unused Revision Fields - how do I get rid of these ??

[BrianHailey]

That is what is displayed when the property in your sheet set is blank. Putting a space in the property won't work because it will still think it's blank.

To avoid this, put a "non-breaking space" in there. Select the property, hold down the alt key, type 255 and then release the alt key.

I'm going off memory here so I may have the code wrong but that's the idea.

[stacy.dunn]

You can also hold CRTL+Shift+Space for a non-breaking space.

[neilyj666]

Thanks - I'll try that

[neilyj666]

The Alt 255 trick worked fine but now I have run into another issue.

I have created a sheet set and all the fiields are working well and plotting individual sheets is fine too.

I have a field for page size which displays the correct page size when individual sheets are plotted but when I publish the sheet set the page size field remains at the first sheet published for all remaining sheets (i.e. A1 is first sheet, subsequent sizes e.g. A2, A0, A3 still show A1 in size field).

I have published to pdf and the sheet size is definitely different for each sheet as it is shown in the pdf reader but the field is incorrect

Any ideas would be welcome

Thanks