AutoCAD Civil 3D

[#1]

The pipe network resides in this drawing so it's not a dreffing issue.

Tried reopening acad and recovering -> no errors found

I swapped the part, but it didn't fix the behaviour.

Interestingly, I tried creating brand new manholes, but they still displayed the frozen sump behaviour...sort of. I can drag the sump downwards, but once edited, the sump cannot be moved upwards again. If however, I attach a pipe to the structure, the sump behaves normally. Once disconnected again, the glitchy behavior resumes.

[#2]

Your signature says SP1. If you don't have SP2 installed I would try installing it.

Did you tell us if this all structures or just one? If it's just one, when you plotted all the pipes to profile did you see all of the inverts correctly? Are they all the same or with the expected range?

Can you edit the sump as expected by selecting the part in plan view vs the profile view?

[#3]

I tried the file on computer with SP3 installed to no avail.

It seems that all existing structures in this file/other files that I open all display this odd sump behaviour. The pipes are all being drawn correctly in the profile view. Just the structures seem to be misbehaving. New structures with pipes attached seem to behave normally.

Editing the structure properties in plan view, I was able to assign a sump value to the structure (by depth) but it made no difference when it was drawn in profile view. Alternatively, I was able to force an elevation for the sump, but all that did was move the grip edit on the structure, the rim to sump height property didn't change so the boundary didn't update

[#4]

Well now we would have to look at the individual structure. If this is a custom structure the issue is in the part build and you would need to re-examine the dimensions, parameters and calcs. If this an unedited OOTB structure I would open a support case. I have never seen this type of behavior.

[#5]

I don't think we talked about rules. I think this is a long shot but I would also try deleteing the rules associated with the part and replacing the part. Perhaps rules are messing it up.

[#6]

I've managed to get an interim solution working until I have more time to look at it.

Somehow through all the tinkering I've been doing, I've re-enabled the swap part workaround. If I swap parts with the same structure, or briefly change to a different part and change back again, the part now behaves normally when displaying the sump.

New structures still come in relatively fine (if no pipes are attached, sump cannot be moved vertically upwards), I just have to swap all my existing structures to ensure that everything is displaying correctly.

Thx for the suggestions, hopefully I'll get some more time next week to delve into it further.

[#7]

Glad you got it worked out. I just think you had a corrupted part. The solution is then to try swapping parts. If this gives you an issue just erase and replace the part.

[#8]

Just to let you know....I'm having the same exact problem.  All my structures are showing a sump depth & FTH is set to "0" as well as the Rules.  When I look at properties, it is showing FTH to be "0".   When I selected Help under the Structures Properties, it explains under "Sump Behavior" when this property is enabled, you are able to use the grip to adjust sump depth.  I have not found where to disable. 

I have submitted a Tech Support Request & did the things they suggested such as changing the FTH in the Part Catolog, Validate, & PARTCATALOGREGEN.  They also suggested about changing the Rules to read "0".  This didn't do it.  I'm going to do what you did for a fix but I'm hoping I don't have to do this everytime. 

[#9]

I consulted with tech support (thru subscription) & got the same response as I have been reading in the Discussion Group but what I did to correct this was.....I made the change in Part Builder to the structure to have a floor thickness of "0".  It did not change my structures already in dwg at all or the floor thickness in the Structure Properties & for some unknown reason I could not swap parts....but I disconnected the structures, deleted them, added same structure, & added the parts to the profile.  I was able to grip & drag the structures where I wanted the invert to be & then connect the structures to the pipes.   It worked....now when I read the Structures Properties, I am showing a "0" floor thickness. Thank goodness this was not a large project.   

Making the change in the Part Builder only is good on new structures added into dwg after making the change.  I'm hoping Autodesk will make a change such as being able to make a change in Part Builder & it change pipes & structures accordingly without having to go back & do what I did above.  Also I wish more revisions could be made under the Structure Properties.  I think they are very limited.  I did make that suggestion to the tech....I really do value the tech support....

Just thought I would pass this on...... 

[#10]

I am having same problem, have tried all of the aforementioned suggestions to no avail. see my post at

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