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    Registered: ‎12-02-2009

    Layer Control and Performance

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    02-04-2013 07:23 AM

    I have a performnace issue that I have been experiencing in Civil 3d 2013 and previous versions. I have a long delay after ending the layer freeze command when in layout mode. This happens for many of my drawings though not all. Purging and auditing seem to have no effect.

     

    Civil 3d does not run the regen command after ending the layer freeze command, but it seems as though this is what's happening. Normal behaviour is when I freeze a layer and upon exiting the command the layers are no longer shown, no delays.

     

    What could cause this?

    -Dustin
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    BrianHailey
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    Re: Layer Control and Performance

    02-04-2013 07:31 AM in reply to: dasindog

    I'm not sure what you mean by, "...when in layout mode." Are you in the layout tab instead of the model tab? If so, does it matter if you are in paper space or model space?

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    Yes, sorry about the confusion. It only happpens when in...

    02-04-2013 07:57 AM in reply to: BrianHailey

    Yes, sorry about the confusion. It only happpens when in a layout tab. 

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    Re: Yes, sorry about the confusion. It only happpens when in...

    02-04-2013 08:37 AM in reply to: dasindog

    more info: After running the freeze command, if I want to change layouts I must click the different layout, wait for a refresh, then click the layout again before it will switch.

    -Dustin
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    Re: Layer Control and Performance

    02-04-2013 10:16 AM in reply to: dasindog

    Try going into the Options dialog box, System tab, and check Cache model tab and all layouts. Maybe this will help. Also make sure your hardware acceleation is not on (3DCONFIG  command)

     

     

     

    Tony

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    Re: Layer Control and Performance

    02-04-2013 11:02 AM in reply to: TCARCAMO78

    I'm giving this a try now, Tony. My hardware acceleration was already disabled but the Layout regen options was set to regen when switching layout.

    -Dustin
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    johnm
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    Re: Layer Control and Performance

    02-04-2013 11:32 AM in reply to: dasindog

    That should help. If it still lags and you have any of these open, close them.

    Layer manager, xref manager, toolspace, properties dialog and anything similar.

    In Layouts/Paper Space I typically see things working faster when these dockables are closed.

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    Re: Layer Control and Performance

    02-04-2013 11:47 AM in reply to: johnm

    Instead of using the "new" Layer Palette, try using the "old fashioned" Layer Dialog box.  You can either enter the command CLASSICLAYER, or, set LAYERDLGMODE to 0.

     

    Also try setting SHOWLAYERUSAGE to a value of 0 as well.

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    Re: Layer Control and Performance

    02-04-2013 12:08 PM in reply to: murray-clack

    John, I do remember this help in the past with some performance. I'll try that out again. I have just been in the habit lately of leaving those windows open most of the time.

     

    murray-clack, I'll check out the SHOWLAYERUSAGE variable and see what results I get. I'll also try using the classic layer manager too.

     

    thanks guys.

    -Dustin
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    Re: Layer Control and Performance

    02-05-2013 04:52 AM in reply to: dasindog

    No luck so far. Showlayerusage was already set to 0. I am keeping all dockable palettes closed and using the classic layer manager. Model and Layout tabs are all cached. I also decided to run recoverall on this project and nothing seems to have changed. Since I am working with files that were created in 2008 and have been upgraded each year I am just going to bet something happened along the way to cause some issues. If I find the culprit I'll update the thread.

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