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    bo.martin
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    Registered: ‎06-12-2010
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    GEO Tiff Issue

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    10-08-2012 09:06 AM

    C3D 2013

    Win 7 64 Bit (or Win 8 64 Bit Same Problem)

     

    When I insert a geo ref tif image it's not recogonizing the world file.

    I've check the image reference and the world file and they match.

     

    Here is my world file:

     

    0.500000000000000
    0.000000000000000
    0.000000000000000
    -0.500000000000000
    1841129.250000000000000
    186743.750000000000000

     

    The wierder part is that if I scale the image by .3048 (Meters to feet correction)

    and paste the world file cooridnates It comes in as if the world file is referencing the

    SW corner of the tiff, not the NW cor that is specified in the world file.

    Suggestions?

    My zone and units are set correctly also.

     

    TIA

     

    Bo

     

     

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    *Expert Elite*
    Posts: 1,745
    Registered: ‎12-18-2002

    Re: GEO Tiff Issue

    10-08-2012 10:22 AM in reply to: bo.martin

    Maybe you're using the AutoCAD Image attach function instead of the AutoCAD Map Mapiinsert command. AutoCAD's does not read the world file.

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    bo.martin
    Posts: 58
    Registered: ‎06-12-2010

    Re: GEO Tiff Issue

    10-08-2012 10:53 AM in reply to: tcorey

    Using mapiinsert

    Modify Corelation Checked

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    antoniovinci
    Posts: 1,095
    Registered: ‎06-03-2011

    Re: GEO Tiff Issue

    10-08-2012 11:28 AM in reply to: bo.martin

    Are you 100% sure that image and worldfile have the same identical name, e.g. BOMARTIN.TIF and BOMARTIN.TFW..?

    If so, try to embed the worldfile inside the image, by means of the free tool GeotiffExaminer by Mentor Software, then erase the worldfile .TFW and issue again the _MAPIINSERT command: any changes?

     

    P.S.

    A pair TIF+TFW is not a Geotiff, sir.

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    bo.martin
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    Re: GEO Tiff Issue

    10-08-2012 12:01 PM in reply to: antoniovinci

    Been There, Done that.

    Using GeotiffExaminer the ref in the tif file matches the twf world file.

     

    WIll try again after I weed my way through a 100 page title policy.

    Argh. Sometimes I hate ALTA Surveys.

     

     

     

     

     

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    antoniovinci
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    Re: GEO Tiff Issue

    10-08-2012 10:42 PM in reply to: bo.martin

    If you can't solve your issue, feel free to share with us that .TIF (zipped, please): you may take a look at it.

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    Mentor
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    Registered: ‎05-05-2008

    Re: GEO Tiff Issue

    10-09-2012 07:00 AM in reply to: bo.martin

    bo.martin wrote:

    C3D 2013

    Win 7 64 Bit (or Win 8 64 Bit Same Problem)

     

    When I insert a geo ref tif image it's not recogonizing the world file.

    I've check the image reference and the world file and they match.

     

    Here is my world file:

     

    0.500000000000000
    0.000000000000000
    0.000000000000000
    -0.500000000000000
    1841129.250000000000000
    186743.750000000000000

     

    The wierder part is that if I scale the image by .3048 (Meters to feet correction)

    and paste the world file cooridnates It comes in as if the world file is referencing the

    SW corner of the tiff, not the NW cor that is specified in the world file.

    Suggestions?

    My zone and units are set correctly also.

     

    TIA

     

    Bo

     

     


    Check out my post in the Map group.

     

    http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/AutoCAD-Map-3D/Civil-3D-2013-Map-2013-Image-Issue/td-p/3415105

     

    There is a "new feature" in 2013 where Map tries to reproject an image on import by reading the embedded or external world file.  The problem is, Autodesk ignores the map units.  I had a SR regarding this and Autodesk doesn't feel it's a bug, but the outcome means that all of the State of Tennessee's aerial images won't come into the drawing correctly.  No other GIS program misreads the coordinate system of the files, it's just Autodesk's 2013 software.  

     

    What we have to do, which will probably happen from now on, is to turn off the drawing's coordinate system, insert the image (MAPIINSERT will ignore the projection information if no coordinate system is set and will just read the raw X,Y, and scale like it always did before), then turn back on the coordinate system.  This is a horribly time consuming process when I deal almost daily with orthophotos, but Autodesk has given us no choice. 

     

    This is also the reason that only two of us in the office are using 2013.  This has been the most problamatic release we've ever used and the first that we've never fully upgraded to.  I have my doubts as to whether 2014 or even 2015 will fix this problem given Autodesk's track record.

    Civil 3D 2013 x64
    Civil 3D 2014 x64
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    bo.martin
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    Registered: ‎06-12-2010

    Re: GEO Tiff Issue

    10-09-2012 03:35 PM in reply to: engrtech

    Setting the dwg to No Datum, No Projection worked.

    Easy fix!!!!!

     

    One would hope this will be fixed in the 1st service pack.

     

    Thanks!!

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    LisaPohlmeyer
    Posts: 301
    Registered: ‎01-14-2009

    Re: GEO Tiff Issue

    10-10-2012 05:30 AM in reply to: bo.martin

    Wow, what a horrible way to have to "work around" an issue that was never an issue before.  I'm glad you figured it out.  It has been one of the many reasons we haven't moved to 2013. Thanks for sharing, I'll add this solution to my list.

    Lisa Pohlmeyer
    Williamson Co. Dept. of Infrastructure
    Intel i7 3.33Ghz, 16Gb RAM
    Nvidia Quadro 2000D
    C3D 2012 SP3, C3D 2014
    Win 7-64

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