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    *neilw

    Corridor: Curb Returns

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    02-27-2009 09:17 AM
    In the attached screen cap there are 2 curb returns that intersect my
    corridor at slightly different stations. To model this properly do I need to
    create seperate assemblies and regions for the left and right lanes? I
    suppose I could stop the 2 lanes at the closest of the 2 the returns and add
    the small segment on the opposite side to the curb return region, but that
    small segment will no longer be getting it's elevations from the main
    roadway. In this case it is insignificant but in other scenarios it may not
    be the case. This scenario seems to create a lot of tedious work. I'm
    looking for efficient options.
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    *wfb

    Re: Corridor: Curb Returns

    02-27-2009 10:01 AM in reply to: *neilw
    Neil:

    Even if the regions do not connect directly I thought that the model would
    connect itself.

    Bill

    "neilw" wrote in message
    news:6133275@discussion.autodesk.com...
    In the attached screen cap there are 2 curb returns that intersect my
    corridor at slightly different stations. To model this properly do I need to
    create seperate assemblies and regions for the left and right lanes? I
    suppose I could stop the 2 lanes at the closest of the 2 the returns and add
    the small segment on the opposite side to the curb return region, but that
    small segment will no longer be getting it's elevations from the main
    roadway. In this case it is insignificant but in other scenarios it may not
    be the case. This scenario seems to create a lot of tedious work. I'm
    looking for efficient options.
    Please use plain text.
    *neilw

    Re: Corridor: Curb Returns

    02-27-2009 10:21 AM in reply to: *neilw
    Are you saying that I can leave a gap and let the surface triangulate
    across?

    "wfb" wrote in message
    news:6133328@discussion.autodesk.com...
    Neil:

    Even if the regions do not connect directly I thought that the model would
    connect itself.

    Bill

    "neilw" wrote in message
    news:6133275@discussion.autodesk.com...
    In the attached screen cap there are 2 curb returns that intersect my
    corridor at slightly different stations. To model this properly do I need to
    create seperate assemblies and regions for the left and right lanes? I
    suppose I could stop the 2 lanes at the closest of the 2 the returns and add
    the small segment on the opposite side to the curb return region, but that
    small segment will no longer be getting it's elevations from the main
    roadway. In this case it is insignificant but in other scenarios it may not
    be the case. This scenario seems to create a lot of tedious work. I'm
    looking for efficient options.
    Please use plain text.
    Mentor
    Posts: 248
    Registered: ‎06-26-2007

    Re: Corridor: Curb Returns

    02-27-2009 10:31 AM in reply to: *neilw
    > {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote}
    > Are you saying that I can leave a gap and let the surface triangulate
    > across?
    >
    > "wfb" wrote in message
    > news:6133328@discussion.autodesk.com...
    > Neil:
    >

    I believe that is what he is saying. I've done it myself in some projects.
    Windows 7 64-bit
    HP Z600 8 Gig RAM
    Civil 3D 2013
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    *neilw

    Re: Corridor: Curb Returns

    02-27-2009 10:43 AM in reply to: *neilw

    In a case where the gap is larger that may not be
    an acceptable solution. Would we then have to resort to seperate assemblies and
    regions? I'm in an evaluation mode here so I'm trying to anticipate workflows.
    On this simple road project I'm finding it is taking way to much work to model
    this corridor.

     


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    {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote} > Are you saying that I can leave a gap
    and let the surface triangulate > across? > > "wfb"
    wrote in message >
    news:6133328@discussion.autodesk.com... > Neil: > I believe that is what
    he is saying. I've done it myself in some projects.
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    *Jeff Mishler

    Re: Corridor: Curb Returns

    02-27-2009 10:44 AM in reply to: *neilw
    FWIW, I use the "Add the missing section of alignment to the curb return
    defintion" method. No, it's not dynamic to the main alignment, but when the
    alignment changes the CR's need to be revised anyway. For smooth transitions
    I will usually make the CR alignments 20' long at each end (following the
    street alignments) which makes this a fairly simple task.

    "neilw" wrote in message
    news:6133347@discussion.autodesk.com...
    Are you saying that I can leave a gap and let the surface triangulate
    across?

    "wfb" wrote in message
    news:6133328@discussion.autodesk.com...
    Neil:

    Even if the regions do not connect directly I thought that the model would
    connect itself.

    Bill

    "neilw" wrote in message
    news:6133275@discussion.autodesk.com...
    In the attached screen cap there are 2 curb returns that intersect my
    corridor at slightly different stations. To model this properly do I need to
    create seperate assemblies and regions for the left and right lanes? I
    suppose I could stop the 2 lanes at the closest of the 2 the returns and add
    the small segment on the opposite side to the curb return region, but that
    small segment will no longer be getting it's elevations from the main
    roadway. In this case it is insignificant but in other scenarios it may not
    be the case. This scenario seems to create a lot of tedious work. I'm
    looking for efficient options.
    Please use plain text.
    Mentor
    Posts: 248
    Registered: ‎06-26-2007

    Re: Corridor: Curb Returns

    02-27-2009 10:49 AM in reply to: *neilw
    I have left some gaps as large as my sampling interval with no problems. On straightaways, this is usually 25-ft, although I have used 50-ft on occasion.
    Windows 7 64-bit
    HP Z600 8 Gig RAM
    Civil 3D 2013
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    *neilw

    Re: Corridor: Curb Returns

    02-27-2009 10:55 AM in reply to: *neilw
    >I use the "Add the missing section of alignment to the curb return
    defintion" method.

    I've never heard of this. Can you explain a bit more Jeff?

    With larger gaps we lose daylighting and have gaps in rendering among other
    issues.
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