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    2D area of a cross section

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    02-15-2013 04:28 PM

    I have a cross section view with a canal section and a flat water surface section.

    Is there a way for C3D to calculate the 2D area of the canal section that is under the water elevation?

     

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    Mike Porter
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    Re: 2D area of a cross section

    02-15-2013 06:10 PM in reply to: mikepo
    Are you looking for 2d area of the cross sections per section view in square ft?

    Or a surface area of all canal bottom that is submerged that takes into account the variation (3d) in side slopes &; bottom?

    Could you post a sketch showing what is needed?
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    Re: 2D area of a cross section

    02-15-2013 11:15 PM in reply to: mikepo

    You'll need to use the compute materials tool which is used to calculate volumes.  Then output new section views and include the volume table for each view.  This volume table will list the 2D area between the 2 surfaces.

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    Re: 2D area of a cross section

    02-19-2013 09:12 AM in reply to: mikepo

    Here's a sketch of what I'm trying to do.

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    Re: 2D area of a cross section

    02-19-2013 09:16 AM in reply to: mikepo
    See my previous reply.
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    Re: 2D area of a cross section

    02-19-2013 09:42 AM in reply to: mathewk

    I got it to work on practice surfaces. Now we'll see if I can do it for the real world. :smileyhappy:

    Thanks.

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    Re: 2D area of a cross section

    02-19-2013 09:44 AM in reply to: mikepo
    Mike,

    So it appears your not interested in the "average end area" in SF but rather LF of submerged bottom beginning at water level on left and terminating at water level on right?
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    Re: 2D area of a cross section

    02-19-2013 10:18 AM in reply to: Jay_B

    That is correct.

    I apologize, I didnt' catch your question in the original post.

     

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    Re: 2D area of a cross section

    02-19-2013 02:23 PM in reply to: mikepo

    you could create the cross section view showing the existing ground and the water surface, explode the sections twice, then trim the ground to the water surface to find its wetted perimeter (see attached video, rename the file to remove the ".txt" portion from filename). make sure your section views are created with no vertical exaggeration. not the most elegant method, especially if you have to compute wetted perimeters for multiple cross sections, but that's the best i can think of at the moment.

     

    P.S: ingore the fact that the water surface elevation has ups and downs in the section view of the video, it represents FG for my project, but the idea is the same.

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    Re: 2D area of a cross section

    02-19-2013 06:02 PM in reply to: mikepo

    Looks like that will work but you may want to "Export to AutoCad DWG" prior to all the trimming etc.,

    which will also do the exploding for you. The resulting file would just be a working drawing for this exercise.

    The integrity of your data wont be compromised in your source drawings either.

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