xref labels arrow head

[erwebsite]

I have a drawing with a surface that has labels with no arrow head and an x marker used. I xref the drawing and the labels show an arrow on the said labels. How can I get the arrow off in the second drawing. I have tried to modify the standard label style in the second drawing to not have arrows.

I have had this problem in version Civil V12.

John

Win 7

Civil 3D 13

[NatyRofner]

Hello John!
Could you please send me the problematic file to perform an analysis?
I'll be glad to help.

Thanks,
Naty

[CADmgrMike]

I have the same issue with a profile view label. The arrowhead is one style in my base drawing and when I xref it into a sheet drawing, the arrowhead changes to something different. I hvae copied the style into the sheet drawing to make sure it is the same.

[BrianHailey]

No need to upload a problematic file, just create your own with the templates that ship with Civil 3D. It's been this way for years.

[stevenh0616]

I've found the same issue with point label styles. The fix is to just always use a closed arrrow head.

[Michael.Shurgalla]

It is a common problem our reseller contacted autodesk and they are aware. The best solution is to change the style from "no arrow" to a filled arrow, set the size of the arrowhead to 0.00001 and it will be virtualy invisible. When you xref into another file it will maintain this setting, unlike the "no arrow".

Now if we want an object like a dot marker to appear. We set the arrow in the style as above and then select the label and adjust the marker style to whatever, like circle with cross, dot etc. 

[rubenicuss]

Hi  there,

I have been playing around with point style and I found a way to solve this issue (at least in my specific case). 

You have to create two point styles,one with "use point elevation"  in the point display mode settings and  the other with "Flatten Points to Elevation". See image attached. The one with "use point elevation" has to have the ultimate settings you want, in my case NO ARROW.

First -  when creating the points make sure to select the created "flatten points to Elevation" Point Style with this you can drag without moving the point marker.

Second- (after dragging) select all points and change them to the  other point sylte, the one with "Use Point Elevation" . You can also set the elevation of all points to 0 if you prefer.

Third - save and reload the x-ref.

This solved my issue. However, everytime I need to drag a label I need to change it to the "flatten point to elevation" point style. 

I hope this helps. BTW I think I am using C3D 2013

Cheers,

[tjlotterhand]

same issue with alignment labeling. I have a label that I want with no arrowhead, so I set the style to "none." when it is xref'd in a drawing, the arrowhead shows up. Does not make any sense.

Thought of changing the arrowhead size to zero, which works, but that gets rid of the landing distance, which I want to keep.

Any solutions to this problem yet? Did they fix this issue in newer versions? Running 2013.

[Michael.Shurgalla]

Make the arrow head 0.0001 in the alignment label...Still have the landing you want but the head is so tiny you will never see it.

That is what we have been doing as I may have mentioned before.

[tjlotterhand]

right i guess i didnt make it clear that i wanted to see the landing distance.

[Michael.Shurgalla]

gotcha but at any rate this is stuff that AUTODESK should fix! Instead of starting new and conceptual software FIX THE STUFF WE USE AND PAY FOR NOW!!!!

[rubenicuss]

Yeah agreed. If you look at the other posts it's been years since this issue is known.

Bummer that they don't take care of it.

[Renbrig]

Changing the arrow head to the smaller size reduces your landing as well.  This doesn't solve the problem.

[agoretoy]

This problem bugs my project for the whole year.

Reducing Arrow size in label style does not fix the problem in any way landing dissupears, if substitute landing with short line - alignment of text suffers.  In my case - changing solid filled arrow to any style arrow head in XREF file - still going to display solid arrowhead in actual file where xref is displayed.

This is great annoyence.  AutoDESK - stop being lazy, you get paid for the product and in many cases - fill it with "useless" improivements where are problems with your existing CAD  functionalities stay unaddressed for years! That is a shame!

[agoretoy]

Hi AutoDESK guys,

I've tracked/monitored this problem for a couple of years now, hoping AutoDESK will come with solution if they see users complaining about it - but so far I do not see fix for it and it becomes frastrating, especially when you get involved with bigger and bigger project designs using all the goodies of dinamic data referensing in Civil 3D. We are currently using Civil 3D 2014 and 2015.
I am a senior CAD Designer for a large engineering firm and work with AutoCAD for 23 years since release 9 in DOS based PCs. With many improvements made by AutoDesk and a price tag growing tremendously over the years - why is simple requests from people to fix basic functionalities problems stay unaddressed for years? Please see this forum topic link below (and similar ones). My client demands these arrows removed from the final design set - and it appears to be a problem for many people who uses your more or less "advanced" features in Civil3D, except for you guys! This is a shame! Please study this problem and get back to me. My corporation has purchased MANY licenses from you for years - list you can do is to show courtesy to your customers and respond to them with fixing the problem! Hundreds of hard working CAD users - good people - back bone of your business are wasting countless hours trying to find work around for stupid problems you've created (may be unintentionally). Who is going to answer for this - our clients paying extra for time spent on other wise simple routine tasks? - this is wrong - get on it - get it fixed!

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-civil-3d-general/xref-labels-arrow-head/m-p/5935529#M288878

This is a BIG problem with the basic functionality of correctly displaying x-reference. Dragged labels of projected objects, even if designed to be WITHOUT arrow heads to be displayed in original design file, in a final sheet set will display solid arrow in all your projected objects labels if they were dragged in original x-ref-d design file. You are inadvertently stealing people's time through not fixing this problem! If you do have a viable work around/fix for the problem - please contact me immediately (401) 415-9446. PLEASE FIX IT NOW !

YOU CAN SEE GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION OF THE PROBLEM HERE:

https://goo.gl/photos/dqTTFMPoNXpDRoqw9

[CADmgrMike]

We learned awhile ago that xrefing profile views would create multiple issues.

I had one set where the arrow would completely disapper in the xref drawing.

Probably their way of forcing you to use the Plan Production tool..... 😉

[StuMor]

this solution worked for me

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-civil-3d-general/xref-dragged-labels/td-p/2353881