Hi Michael,
Precisely, although I do have a few comments following:
1) No "T" works for us (L or R). If I were to look at the larger picture,
as you have to, it should be user defined. As far as "drawing settings" for
this, it may not be flexible enough if a user wished for some reason to use
"L" for some labels, "LT" for others, and "left"... (you get the point) in
the same drawing. It seems building the functionality into a style would
take care of this.
2) Sounds great. My only comments are; don't limit this functionality to
alignment labels only and make the userstring easily/quickly editable (as
you said, edit the label property).
Sincerely,
Tyler Townes
"Michael Rogerson" wrote in message
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> Hi Tyler,
> Great requests - I'll throw some thoughts to add to Karens.
>
> 1) LT/RT text:
> I think what we need is an abbreviation for the "LT" and "RT" text within
> the drawing settings. There are already a number of these at the drawing
> level - right click on the drawing on settings tab in prospector, select
> "drawing settings" and pick the abbreviations tab. Currently, this has
> things like the geometry points on an alignment, which show up in the
> station/geometry point labelling type for alignments. It comes down to a
> property field in the label style for "Side" - and depending on the side
> where the STA/OFF label is placed, either the left or right text would be
> inserted. You could make this text for left or right whatever you want.
We
> already have a "drop sign" formatter for the actual offset number, so that
> part is taken care of.
>
> 2) Unique Text per label instance using the same label style:
> I feel your pain! I have numerous plans that illustrate exactly what you
> said - that having two station offset labels with the same content is an
> exception rather than the rule. We have been talking about "user strings"
> per label instance and one idea we've been digging into almost exactly
> mirrors your suggestion. The label style sould have user defined
attributes
> like , , , etc - hopefully as many
as
> you want/need. These could be placed anywhere within the contents of a
> label text component, like any other attribute you can add. After you
have
> placed the label, you would edit label properties (not the style) and see
> the userstrings, where you could add the text you need. If nothing is
> entered, the particular userstring would simply not be drawn. I think the
> only thing we will need to address is formatting carraige return issues.
>
> What do you think?
>
> cheers,
> Mike
>
> Autodesk, Inc.
> Michael C. Rogerson, PE
> Product Designer - Program Manager
> ISD Civil Engineering Software Development
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>
> "Tyler Townes" wrote in message
> news:7B80824ABD7E80B1024FB27EA52D227C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hi Karen,
> >
> > Yes, exactly. Well put, not much bang for the buck per "label style".
> >
> > I did a quick count on a set of plans we have and I counted
approximately
> > 180 "alignment station offset labels", of which approximately 100 have
> > unique user input descriptions (text), and the other 80 can be divided
> into
> > 4 unique user input descriptions. So I would have to create and manage
> 104
> > label styles, just for alignments (not including all other label
styles).
> >
> > A good example of how it could work is a vanilla acad dimension. You
can
> > edit the data contents in text editor by adding user defined text
outside
> > the dynamic data brackets <>, or remove/override the dynamic data
brackets
> > <>, or at some point simply replace them <>, all while using the same
> > "style." Simple, yet powerful.
> >
> > Thank you for listening,
> >
> > Tyler Townes
> >
> >
> > "Karen Dowling, Autodesk ISD Test Development"
>
> > wrote in message
> > news:0FB81BC7111169FDCC39DDC0B3808B56@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Hi Tyler,
> > > I think I see what you are getting at. I'm going to give an examples
of
> > how
> > > the functionality that is available now would work, and then, review
the
> > > point I think you are making.
> > >
> > > If you have a project with the alignment running straight through the
> > middle
> > > and, in various locations left and right of the alignment, you have
> > > Hydrants, Water Meters, and Uploles which, you want to place upon
each,
> a
> > > station offset label which includes a LT or RT reference as well as a
> > > reference to the type of structure being labeled. To do this, you
would
> > > have to create six station offset labels,
> > > 1. To label Hydrants Left
> > > 2 To label Hydrants Right
> > > 3. To label Water Meter Left
> > > 4. To label Water Meter Right
> > > 5. To label Upole Left
> > > 6. To label Upole Right
> > > Now, if all you have are six structures to label, you're not getting
> much
> > > bang for you buck per label style created (relatively speaking,
> > considering
> > > that creating a style is pretty simple to do). However, if you have
30
> > of
> > > each to label, it would be efficient to label them using labels styles
> as
> > > described, rather than having to type something at the placement of
each
> > > label.
> > >
> > > I think that brings us to your very good point, which is that
> typically,
> > > there are alot more than just 3 types of structures to be labeled. As
we
> > sit
> > > now, we would need to create a label style to accommodate each
structure
> > > type, LT and RT. And, in the instance of Upoles, you may want to
> enter
> > > structure-specific data such as a pole number or benchmark
information.
> > Is
> > > that what you are getting at?
> > >
> > > Civil 3D station offset labels do not currently have a tag/table
option.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Karen Dowling
> > > Autodesk ISD QA Analyst
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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