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Message 1 of 19
jtuzyk
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Zoom Undo

is there a way to not include zoom features in the undo command.

 

for instance, if i delete something and than zoom out, i have to undo multiple times to complete the undo delete.

 

I want to completely eliminate zoom featues from the undo command.

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Message 2 of 19
tcorey
in reply to: jtuzyk

AutoCAD will combine Zoom and Pan into one operation, but it will not eliminate Zooms and Pans from Undo list.



Tim Corey
MicroCAD Training and Consulting, Inc.
Redding, CA
Autodesk Gold Reseller

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Message 3 of 19
jtuzyk
in reply to: tcorey

that is the stupidest thing ever.

Message 4 of 19
nicolas.menu
in reply to: jtuzyk

Right now, there is unfortunately  no options to do that (neither with existing AutoCAD API), sorry.
But thanks for the suggestion, I will take note as a wish.



Nicolas Menu
Support Specialist, Civil 3D
Product Support
Autodesk, Inc.

Message 5 of 19
antoniovinci
in reply to: jtuzyk


jtuzyk wrote:

if i delete something and than zoom out, i have to undo multiple times to complete the undo delete


Old-school tip: if you want to undo the last "delete" operation, staying in the same zoom factor, you can issue the command _OOPS

Message 6 of 19
AllenJessup
in reply to: nicolas.menu

If you want to take it a step further. I would be great if you could select individual items from the Undo list. Then you could undo a command 5 steps back without affecting what was done in between. Of course there would be limitation. If you copied and object then rotated the copy. You couldn't undo the copy without losing the rotated object.

 

I understand this might be complicated. From what I understand of the Undo command, it just steps back to a previous point in the drawing database. Skipping steps in between, even Zooms, would require adding or deleting sections of the database. Not just a simple reversion to a previous point.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 7 of 19
mathewkol
in reply to: jtuzyk

It's far from the "stupidest thing ever". There are far stupider things that can happen in AutoCAD 🙂
Matt Kolberg
SolidCAD Professional Services
http://www.solidcad.ca /
Message 8 of 19
JWOLLENBERG
in reply to: mathewkol

No it is the stupiest thing ever.  The fact that Undo (one of the most basic of commands) is now not working properly.  Why on earth are they messing with Undo.  There are so many other pressing issues.  It is not fixed in 2014 either.  I just tested it.  This is bs.  It needs fixed pronto.

Message 9 of 19
troma
in reply to: JWOLLENBERG

As I understand it, the new Undo glitch introduced in 2013 is far, far stupider than the issue the OP had with Undo back in 2011.

Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 10 of 19
JWOLLENBERG
in reply to: troma

That is true I noticed after I posted that this was a 2011 issue.
Message 11 of 19

Yes, all settings are correct.

 

I have done more testing this morning and I think I know what is causing the Undo to fail.

 

I have narrowed it down to Associative Hatching that will cause the Undo to all of sudden list every mouse zoom as an Undo command and as soon as I take off the associative hatching then the Undo command will work and will combine all the mouse zooms into 1 undo command.

 

Could someone verify this and see if you get the same results.

Start a brand new drawing by using Autodesk Civil 3D template "_AutoCAD Civil 3D (Imperial) NCS.dwt" which is located under C:\Users\Your User Name\AppData\Local\Autodesk\C3D 2013\enu\Template.

Save the drawing before you do anything, then just drawn a couple of lines, then using your mouse middle button to zoom in and out, then go to the Undo icon pull down and you should only see a few undo commands. Now draw a rectangle and hatch it with Ansi 31 and do not make it associative hatch yet, once done save it, then using middle mouse scoll button again zoom in and out and then go back to the undo and again you should only have a few Undo commands.

Now let's see if we can break it, now select the existing hatch and make it associative hatch, now save the drawing, now just draw a line, check undo, now use middle mouse button to zoom in and out, now go back to the Undo and in my testing you should get a whole bunch of Undo commands.

 

I would also be curious if you take an existing drawing that you know you are having problems with and if it by chance has hatching in it select it and see if it's associative hatch and if it is turn it off and see if that fixes that drawing.

 

I have doubled and tripled checked everything and with all my testing I have concluded that Associative Hatching causes the Undo command to not combine all the zoom in's and out's into 1 Undo command like it suppose to.

 

So now if I can get other people to test this and reply back to this post then maybe Autodesk can get to work on it to solve this problem.

 

Thanks

Brent Morris

Message 12 of 19

Correction, I meant to say Annotative versus Associative, so replace Annotative for the word Associative in my previous reply

 

Sorry about that.

Brent Morris

Message 13 of 19
Neilw_05
in reply to: AllenJessup

Better yet, take a lesson from Microstation and put zoom and pans in a seperate UNDO tool. Undoing graphic edits is much more efficient in ustn.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 14 of 19

I have been able to confirm on 3 different machines that the Undo command will fail if we have just 1 hatch that is set to annotative hatch and this only happens in Civil 3D 2013 SP2 and Civil 3D 2014 No service packs.

I have tested this also in Civil 3D 2012 SP3 and the Undo works fine and I couldn't break the undo by using annotative hatching at least with SP3.

I have also tested this with ADT & MEP 2013 & 2014 and the problem only exists with Civil 3D 2013 & 2014 and only if there is just 1 piece of annotative hatch within that drawing.

 

It doesn't matter if the HPAnnotative system variable it 0 (off), if there is 1 piece of hatch within that drawing that has annotative hatching turned on within a Civil 3D 2013 or 2014 drawing then the Undo doesn't work correctly.

 

I have been able to take the Civil 3D 2013 & 2014 drawings that have this problem and change every single piece of hatching and turn off the annotative hatching and the Undo will start working for that drawing jsut like it's suppose to.

Message 15 of 19

Please submit your findings to support.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 16 of 19

I wanted to confirm with other users first if my findings where correct.

By chance did you test it and did you confirm that Annotative hatching is causing the problem?

Message 17 of 19
gregorio.grasselli
in reply to: tcorey


@tcorey wrote:

AutoCAD will combine Zoom and Pan into one operation, but it will not eliminate Zooms and Pans from Undo list.


That's the stupidest thing ever.

 

I updated once from paper and pencil to AutoCAD 2003. There's abolutely no need to update to AutoCAD 2014 if there isn't a stupid improvement such as eliminating Zoom and Pan from Undo list.

Message 18 of 19
gregorio.grasselli
in reply to: jtuzyk

Please everyone vote for the UNDO ZOOM/PAN improvement to be added in future releases:

 

https://www.augi.com/wish-list/rank/autocad/463137

 

And share the link to every user you know!

Message 19 of 19

Thank you for voting! The request has reached the Top 30!

Now please everyone vote inside the Top 30 in order to have the issue corrected in future releases:
https://www.augi.com/wish-list/vote/autocad

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