I've recently installed Civil 3D 2014 as part of IDSP 2014. I've been trying to customize the display but each time it opens with no ribbon.
I have created a specific profile and added it to the startup icon. I save the default Civil 3D workspace under a new name and make sure that "Automatically save workspace changes is checked". Each time I start Civil 3D 2014 there is no ribbon displayed and the Workspace I created is gone.
I've tried creating a new CUIX file and transferring the workspace to that. After I start C3D I transfer the workspace back to the original CUIX. But I then get a screen that looks pretty much like the basic OOTB Civil 3D, not how I had set it up. I've also tried to add the workspace to the start icon with no luck.
I can tell the program is trying to save the workspace changes because the date on the CUIX file indicates it's just been updated. But it never makes it back in to the program.
Allen Jessup
Civil 3D 2012 SP 2.1
Dell Precision T7400, Xeon CPU 3.16 GHz
Win 7 Pro, 64-bit,12 GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro FX 4600
Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager
By chance did you migrate from R2013? I believe it has copied the Civil3d cui file (and probably more) from 2013 to 2014.
I have had this same issue, I perform a reset (via the registry & deleting the folders then restarted. Then all is as expected.
Close and re migrate but don't select the menu files this time. run civils and import any customisations through the cui dialogues.
EDIT: Oh the other thing I found was that after installation (by others) the customisation locations seemed to have been set up without the ability to edit the folders or contents. (ie pipe network catalogues, cui & lin files etc.
Are you certain all partial CUIx's are being found? If one or more are considered "missing" that could be considered a change, therefore the new state is saved. And, of course, the stupid questions: is the workspace in the Enterprise or Main, and is there a workspace argument at start-up?
@mikeevans wrote:
By chance did you migrate from R2013?
No. We are coming up from 2012 and I didn't use any migration. You did give me an idea. I overwrote the C3D.cuix with the original from the deployment. It still doesn't save the workspace. But once I transfer the workspace from the file I created. It restores most of my settings.
Allen
Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager
@dgorsman wrote:
Are you certain all partial CUIx's are being found?
It looks like they are. They all appear in the CUI editor with the correct paths. Do you have any trick to test that?
This is the Main CUI. We don't use an Enterprise. I did add the workspace to the start icon.
Allen
Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager
Under the list of partial customization files in the CUIx editor, it will list "(Unresolved)" next to those CUIx files it can't find (for example, it normally shows "(read-only)" next to partials of the Enterprise). Additionally, under the Workspace Contents panel Ribbon tabs may show "Unresolved" when they are dependant on CUIx content they can't find.
They all look good. I havn't tried adding in any 3rd party again.
Allen
Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager
There must be some setting to have 2014 restore files from the cache of something. I watched the CUIX file get updated while I was opening 2014. I can set things up and backup the CUIX. Then after the program starts overwrite the CUIX with the backup and set my workspace current. All is as I want it. Next time I start 2014 the workspace is missing again.
Allen Jessup
Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager
I had used THIS while diagnosing another problem. I thought in might be the cause of this problem and deleted the shortcut. That didn't make a difference.
I have found a workaround. If I make a copy of the C3D.cuix in a subfolder and point to it as the Main Customization File. That won't get overwritten. But I don't want to have to do that for each installation. So now I need to figure out why the CUI in the Support folder is being overwritten each time 2014 opens.
Allen Jessup
Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager
Hi Allen,
I know this is an old thread but I'm having the EXACT same issue you describe with an install of IDSP 2014.
I figured out the same workaround you did - pointing the Main Customization CUI to ANY location other than the default OOTB location, I can create new Workspaces and they get saved normally.
However, as you mention, I don't want to have to do that for each product in the Suite, for the few dozen systems I'm setting up.
Did you, by any chance, eventually figure out the cause of the issue?
We have plenty of Civil 3D 2014 installed on other systems that have no problem saving their Workspaces using the standard folder setup. However, for the systems I'm working with now, I can create the Workspace, close C3D, restart, and get the 'Missing Ribbon' issue and the Workspace I created disappears.
I've checked permissions on the folders and they are all wide open.
Did you ever find any resolution?
Thank you,
Patrick Villella, LEED AP
AEC Technical Consultant
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Hello Patrick,
Sorry to say I've never figured this out. I shared my copy of the CUIX with the other users and had them point to that. It's inconvenient but not all that bad. I'm hoping this doesn't happen with 2015. We'll be upgrading to that in a couple of months.
Allen
Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager
Patrick Villella, LEED AP
AEC Technical Consultant
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Just FYI, Do you have Bridge Modeler add-in installed? Try removing it. It is what was preventing our computers with Civil3d 2014 from saving workspaces.
Good Luck,
Mike -
Patrick Villella, LEED AP
AEC Technical Consultant
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Thank you Mike! I have not been able to edit my workspace settings either, or the CUIx file for that matter. Any changes made looked fine until I closed and re-opened AutoCAD Civil 3D. Uninstalling the Bridge Modeler add-in allowed me to edit and save the changes.
Thanks Again,
Jack
Civil 3D 2014
That was it. Uninstalling the Bridge Module did it. Thanks Mike.
Had the same issue here on one PC that would not save workspaces. I kept getting the No Ribbon message when refiring C3D.