Weird Pipe Layer/Color Glitch in C3D 2011

[tr4driver]

Greetings...

I just started using C3D 2011 (now that the Raster Object Enabler has finally been released), and I've come across a very strange glitch. In plan view, I used a storm pipe style that draws the pipe walls and a dashed centerline that is the width of the pipe. The layer that the centerline is color white, and the settings in the style are set to BYLAYER for the color. However, whenever I load a drawing up, the color of the pipe centerline on screen matches the color of the current layer at the time of startup. If I change the current layer, the color remains the same as the original current layer at startup. I can change the color from BYLAYER to another color and it will change, but when I change it back to BYLAYER, it goes back to the color at startup and not to the color set for the layer the centerline is set to. So far, the centerline itself is the only piece of the pipe network that seems to be affected.

Anyone else experiencing anything like this? I'm going to play around with it some more tomorrow.

Thanks,

Kurt

[Matt.Anderson]

Kurt -

Is this a new drawing? or something from 2010?

Matthew Anderson, PE

[tr4driver]

It's a drawing that was originally created in 2010.

Kurt

[Anonymous]

Can you email me that drawing?

anderson at jaseng dot com

Matthew Anderson, PE


On 6/1/2010 11:31 PM, tr4driver wrote:
> It's a drawing that was originally created in 2010.
>
> Kurt
>

[sakka252]

You are not alone. We have the same problem.

[tr4driver]

Matt,

I've emailed you a small test drawing that duplicates the issue.

I've found that the color of the centerline will change to what ever the color of the current layer is when a regen is performed. The drawing that I sent you was a newly drawn pipe network in a new C3D 2011 drawing started with a C3D 2010 twmplate file.

Kurt

[Anonymous]

I was able to duplicate the issue, and it is listed as DID 1323671.

Matthew Anderson, PE


On 6/2/2010 1:10 PM, tr4driver wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I've emailed you a small test drawing that duplicates the issue.
>
> I've found that the color of the centerline will change to what ever the color of the current layer is when a regen is performed. The drawing that I sent you was a newly drawn pipe network in a new C3D 2011 drawing started with a C3D 2010 twmplate file.
>
> Kurt
>

[Anonymous]

I reported this during Beta, too. I didn't notice at the time that the pipe
was taking on the color of the current layer. This could be a real issue
when the user has frozen a layer in the current viewport then later sets
that layer current....the next regen and the pipes no longer display in the
VP.

"Matt.Anderson" wrote in message
news:6402140@discussion.autodesk.com...
> I was able to duplicate the issue, and it is listed as DID 1323671.
>
> Matthew Anderson, PE
>
>
> On 6/2/2010 1:10 PM, tr4driver wrote:
>> Matt,
>>
>> I've emailed you a small test drawing that duplicates the issue.
>>
>> I've found that the color of the centerline will change to what ever the
>> color of the current layer is when a regen is performed. The drawing
>> that I sent you was a newly drawn pipe network in a new C3D 2011 drawing
>> started with a C3D 2010 twmplate file.
>>
>> Kurt
>>

[dperde]

Same kind of problem is with the xrefs. I have a separate layer for xref, color white. But, every time I change the current layer, all the objects in the xref that are on layer 0 and color by layer, change the color matching the active layer in the drawing. "Weird" is the right word for it.

[tr4driver]

The layer of the centerline is actually being set to the current layer.  If the pipe is exploded, and the centerline is listed, it is actually on what ever the current layer was set to at the time it was exploded.  Since almost all my drawings have pipe networks, and I use a lot of VP layer controls for various sheets, I can no longer use the pipe centerline feature at all until it's fixed.

Very frustrating.

Kurt

[Jeff_M]

I had thought we might work around this temporarily by forcing a specific layer other than 0 in the pipe style. Unfortunately this does not work. No matter what I do, the centerline always takes on the properties of the current layer EXCEPT when the current layer is 0.

Kurt, please be sure to log a support request on this. I will do the same.

[Matt.Anderson]

Guys -

Please be sure to reference the Defect ID I noted above. 

Matt Anderson, PE

[Jeff_M]

Thanks Matt, I'll go add that now. I thought you had mentioned it but I missed it when I looked last night.

[jmayo-EE]

Has anyone tried to temporarily workaround the issue by changing the color in the style to be ByBlock & changing the pipe/stc/xref color?

John

[Jeff_M]

Yes, John. Changing the color to ByBlock does solve the color problem, however the Current layer frozen in a VP problem still remains.

[sakka252]

What do you mean "reference the Defect ID"? Where do we do that?  I saw earlier you listed DID 1323671.

Thanks,

[Jeff_M]

That's the one, sakka252. Just include that DID in any support request you make regarding this issue. The more people that report this, the higher up the "fix this now" list it will get.

[sakka252]

This scares me.  If it was a known problem and reported during the beta, why wasn't it fixed? How many other problems were not fixed after being reported during the beta?

I guess the first release is just beta version 2.

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@Anonymous wrote:
I reported this during Beta, too. I didn't notice at the time that the pipe
was taking on the color of the current layer. This could be a real issue
when the user has frozen a layer in the current viewport then later sets
that layer current....the next regen and the pipes no longer display in the
VP.

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[sakka252]

Ah Okay.  So send a support request and reference the DID.

Thanks

[klugb]

I know every one wants this fixed, but I have a workaround that works for us.

Turn of the centerline in the display, turn on the pipe hatch and set it to solid. It's a little slower but at least behaves.

Bruce