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Trouble using Civil 3D commands

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abcd1827565
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Trouble using Civil 3D commands

I try to make a simple surface in 3D, this is what appears on the command line "Unknown command "AECCCREATESURFACE". Press F1 for help."

This is true in all the 3D commnads
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Message 2 of 31
Anonymous
in reply to: abcd1827565


There seems to be a rash of users having this
problem lately due to starting "AutoCAD Civil 3D 2009 as AutoCAD" which
means this is not Civil 3D. 

 

Bill


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I
try to make a simple surface in 3D, this is what appears on the command line
"Unknown command "AECCCREATESURFACE". Press F1 for help." This is true in all
the 3D commnads
Message 3 of 31
sdurspek
in reply to: abcd1827565

I am having the same problem, and NO, I am not opening the "Civil 3D as AutoCAD" version. It is the full Civil 3D software. Here are the errors I get on startup:

Loading AEC Base...
Loading AEC Base Extended...
Loading AEC Base UI...
Loading AEC Project Base...
Loading AEC Base GUI...
Loading AEC Schedule Data...
Loading AEC Schedule...
Loading AEC Object Explode...
Loading AEC Layer Manager...
Loading AEC Architectural Base...
Loading AEC Project UI...
Loading AEC Utilities...
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: CIVIL
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: MAP3DGEOSPATIAL
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: MAPCLASSIC
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: ACAD
Customization file loaded successfully. Customization Group: CONTENTSEARCH
Regenerating model.
Initializing........
C:\Program Files\AutoCAD Civil 3D 2009\AcMapWorkspace.arx cannot find a dll or
other file that it needs.
C:\Program Files\AutoCAD Civil 3D 2009\AcMapDwfApi.arx cannot find a dll or
other file that it needs.
Failed.
AcMapWorkspace.arx Load Failed
AcMapDwfApi.arx Load Failed
C:\Program Files\AutoCAD Civil 3D 2009\AcMapDwfUI.arx cannot find a dll or
other file that it needs.
C:\Program Files\AutoCAD Civil 3D 2009\Civil\AeccUiModel.arx cannot find a dll
or other file that it needs.
AutoCAD Express Tools Copyright © 2002-2004 Autodesk, Inc.
AutoCAD menu utilities loaded.
AutoCAD menu utilities loaded.

All ACAD commands work, but none of the Civil 3D commands work, even though the Civil 3D menus and their commands are showing. Every Civil 3D command results in an error such as this:

Command: Unknown command "AECCCREATEPOINTS". Press F1 for help.

Civil 3D worked fine after installation. Then while attempting to switch between workspaces it crashed and then the Civil 3D commands didn't work any more.

Help!
Message 4 of 31
AllenJessup
in reply to: abcd1827565

That was a common problem in 2007. I don't know if the same fix will work but check out http://tinyurl.com/aga3c9

Allen


Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 5 of 31
V23
Explorer
in reply to: abcd1827565

This could be a very simple fix. I just had the same issue with one of my Civil 3D users at my office and the problem was they were opening "Civil 3D as AutoCAD" not "AutoCAD Civil 3D". Make sure you are clicking on the correct icon.
-V
Message 6 of 31
VTcritch
in reply to: AllenJessup

This link doesn't work anymore.   I'm having the same problem with Civil 3D commands not working and I'm positive I'm opening and using AutoCAD Civil 3D.  Please help!

Message 7 of 31
AllenJessup
in reply to: AllenJessup

I can't find it on the Autodesk site. They may have pulled it down. What version are you working in?

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 8 of 31
VTcritch
in reply to: abcd1827565

AutoCAD Civil 3D 2010.  Thanks for the prompt reply!

Message 9 of 31
AllenJessup
in reply to: VTcritch

Nothing occurs to me at the moment. I'll poke around and post if I come up with anything. Have you tried the standard - Restart the program and\or reboot?

 

I'm about to leave. Post what you find and I'll take a look 2morrow.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 10 of 31
VTcritch
in reply to: abcd1827565

Oops,  i'm so conditioned to seeing messag boxes come up for missing shape files or xrefs that I failed to read the following one carefully:  "This drawing was created with a newer version of Civil 3D.  All entities created by Civil 3D within the drawing are in a proxy state.  Additionally, all commands, settings, and displays of Civil 3D are disabled for this drawing."

 

I read that this can be caused by orphaned files so I removed the AECC points in the drawing, recovered, audited; all without resolving the issue.  It seems to be simply that I need to contact the drawing owner and ask them to save it as version 2010 from a newer version.

 

Thanks again for the help.

Message 11 of 31
mathewkol
in reply to: abcd1827565

Having them save the file to 2010 will not help. If you can open itz, which you can, it means it is already 2010 format. Problem is the file has C3D objects that are from a newer version. These CSNNOT be saved backward. You will never be able to use C3D commands in that file with your 2010 version.

The best you csan do is ask them to export an XML which you can import into 2010. It's not a good solution but it's the only one.
Matt Kolberg
SolidCAD Professional Services
http://www.solidcad.ca /
Message 12 of 31
AllenJessup
in reply to: VTcritch

What Matt said. Although if you have the version that the file was created in. It may be time to install it. That will save you the most headaches.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 13 of 31
zevcohen
in reply to: AllenJessup

I have had this same problem. I have several machines running Civil 3D 2009 on Windows 7. After a clean install install of Civil 3D 2009 on Windows 7, none of the Civil commands work. 

 

Solution:

Go to Options, Files, Support File Search Path

Add a new search path to:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\AxUi

 

Save the setting, close and reopen Civil 3D 2009.

Message 14 of 31
AllenJessup
in reply to: zevcohen

Thanks for posting that answer. Hopefully the OP of someone else having this problem will verify it works on other systems. Then the post can be marked as accepted to help in the future.

 

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 15 of 31
BRETTMAN6513
in reply to: mathewkol

I am having the same problem. I ve been at my new job for about a month. They bought a brand new computer great processor, great video card, etc. it has civil 3d 2009 and civil 3d land desktop companion, along with some other survey software.  My Civil 3d 2009 worked for a day or so. fatal error caused it to shut down. upon re-opening civil, it lost all the functionality of civil and is basically vanilla autocad. I put in a help desk and the IT guy (he is an expert with computers in general, but he is not a cad guru) reloaded it. It worked great for another day or two, then it shut down again. i opened it back up and all the civil commands were gone. "unknown commands" for surfaces, survey, toolspace, etc. all of it. The IT guy reloaded it and told me to just keep it up. but cad shuts down sometimes, for whatever error. can someone help me. I heard that our cad guru quit about a week before i got here. please help

Message 16 of 31
AllenJessup
in reply to: BRETTMAN6513

Welcome to the forums. It sounds like you might be having profile trouble. I'll start by asking how you are starting Civil 3D and how you're opening a drawing.

 

 



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 17 of 31
BRETTMAN6513
in reply to: AllenJessup

well. I read the posts above, along with multiple posts on other forums. so first thing i did was delete my shortcut and went to the program file and made another shortcut, hoping it was that easy. As far as opening the drawing i just use the pull down.

Message 18 of 31
AllenJessup
in reply to: BRETTMAN6513

Can you share what is in your icon? I'm looking for the target field.

 

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This is want mine from 2012 looks like; "C:\Program Files\Autodesk\AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012\acad.exe" /ld "C:\Program Files\Autodesk\AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012\AecBase.dbx" /nologo /p "C3D Imperial 2.0" /t "G:\Cadlib\Template\_RCHD C3D Imperial 2012.dwt" /w "Civil 3D 2.0"

 

THIS link explains the Icon Switches.

 

It's often better to customize the Icon so that it opens the exact profile, DWT and Workspace you want. This can avoid problems similar to those you're having. Once you have one that works. Back it up.

 

I can't definitively say that it's a Profile problem in your case. But that's the first thing that comes to mind when someone says Civil opens like it's basic AutoCAD.

 

 

Allen Jessup

 



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 19 of 31
BRETTMAN6513
in reply to: BRETTMAN6513

Thank you for responding so quickly. here we go.

 

Target:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\AutoCAD Civil 3D 2009\acad.exe" /p "<<Unnamed Profile>>"

 

Start in:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\AutoCAD Civil 3D 2009\UserDataCache\"

Message 20 of 31
AllenJessup
in reply to: BRETTMAN6513

OK. Open your Options dialog to check your default profile names are the same in 2009. Go to the Profiles tab.

 

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You can start by changing <<Unnamed Profile>> to <<C3D_Imperial>> or your equivalent (or C3D_Metric if appropriate). Let me know if that gets you anywhere.

 

Allen

 

 



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

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