We do, in addition storing all our files, it hosts an intranet site (that we don't use), and Exchange mail services.
What are some alternative was of fulfilling this SQL requirement other than a full blown server? Can a single workstation run an SQL service for itself if there is only one seat of C3D to service? or maybe an older workstation attached to the network running the service for a small installation of seats?
This is exactly what we're planning on doing. Either using a little bit older workstation, or possibly running a VM on our server. Problem is, I don't know anything about virtual machine, but I intend to learn a lot about it this week.
WOW!!! Thanks for all the responses; much to ponder. I'm surprised to
hear that Data Shortcuts do not work as in 2006. I'll have to try this
for myself later in the week. I just installed C3D 07 today without the
Autodesk Data Management enabled. I just want to jump in and start using
the design tools, not spend time being a database manager. Since we are
eventually going to be installed across about 20 people, we'll have to
work out the sharing information process. We might be forced into using
Vault after all. Hopefully eventually, our architectural and building
systems friends will be able to follow us into this data management system
Thanks to all,
Clark Nexsen, Architecture & Engineering
Norfolk, Virginia USA
On Tue, 02 May 2006 15:07:52 -0400, David Dixon wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas on this question? Personally, I'm going to
> initially shy away from Vault and continue to use Data Shortcuts. It'll
> be enough for us just to learn the new C3D features without being
> by the Vault functions. Plus it sounds like we need a MS SQL server
> unless someone else can tell me that it works with open-source database
> like MySQL. $$$
I haven't actually used vault but one thing that strikes me when anyone has mentioned using MSDE is the size limitation. The free version of MSDE has a 2 Gig limit on size. Our CAD files, Land Desktop files, etc on our server right now total over 60 gig. With file sizes in the 2-20 meg range with civil 3D I don't see MSDE being a valid alternative for long with most firms without upgrading to the full license of SQL Server.
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Vault can be upgraded to SQL Server Express 2005, which comes with Vault.
SSE does not have an artificial performance throttle like MSDE, so as a
result it can handle a few more users. I don't know how many more, since it
is still a free database, but performance should be better with more than 10
people or so. :-)
Langan Engineering and Environmental Services, Inc.
"James Wedding" wrote in message
Vault's db is actually only storing pointers and change records, not the dwg
or other data.
2G is a lot of one line pointers, so the ~10 user limit is more of a concern
for most shops.
James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
Civil 3D 2006 SP2
XP Tablet, SP2, 2GHz, 1.5G
One of the presenters at BootCamp said that it would.......hmmmm.......Adesk
IMO, this is NOT a minor issue............there are some folks out here
using MySQL and this could be a huge issue.
"Jon Rizzo" wrote in message
vault only runs on SQL Server, MSDE or SQL Server Express 2005. Both MSDE
and SQL Server Express 2005 are free and included with Vault. Vault does
NOT run on MySQL.
Has anyone here addressed the issue of vault & xrefs yet? Specifically how would you use sheet set manager with a project in vault? What I have been able to come up with so far is that I probably only want to have my data drawings in the vault, and have everything else reference the "working copy" outside of vault. But it seems like this could get hairy if you want to keep all your drawings on a server (as opposed to C:\Civil 3D Projects, or whatever).