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*Scott McEachron
Message 31 of 35 (24 Views)

Re: To Vault or Not to Vault?

05-17-2006 01:09 PM in reply to: *David Dixon
The 10 user limit is in reference to what XP allows. Installed on Server
2003 and it becomes a function of the database.

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Scott McEachron
DC CADD, Dallas - Fort Worth
http://c3dpavingtheway.blogspot.com/


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To my knowledge you can have as many logins as you want. The 10 user limit
is in reference to the suggested amount of users who should access the vault
at any given time (at the same time). But, this is still just a
suggeestion. You will be able to have more users accessing the vault at one
time, but you will most definately experience Lag in Data transfers. In
this case you would want to go with the Full MSSQL package.
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Message 32 of 35 (24 Views)

Re: To Vault or Not to Vault?

05-17-2006 01:35 PM in reply to: *David Dixon
When you start Civil 3D 2007, you can either log in automatically or manually login to the Vault Via the Master view in the Prospector tab.
In this way, Civil 3D acts as a client to the server installed either locally on your own machine, or on another computer connected over the network.

So, if you choose not to login to the vault, either on startup or manually, you can still draw without being logged into a vault. But, if you want to access Drawings that are part of the vault, then yes, you will need to login and check them out, or obtain a (Read Only) version depending on your user privileges or situational preference. I hope this is not getting to complicated.

I believe a user can access as many Drawings as she/he wants, but I may be wrong in this. In my experience of using this new project setup, I have been able to open and work in all the .DWGs in my vault at one time (about 4-5 drawings). This environment can be tricky cause in order for the changes to update you have to save the drawing, and then check the drawing back in. When using references, you then have to sync the child .dwg to the project, where the changes in the parent .dwg will carry over to the child. Kind of complicating, but a very nice feature.

Remember, that when you check out a .dwg, no one else can open that .dwg from the vault. So, it may be wise to only check out the .DWGs that you need to be working in.

As far as a time limit, I do not think that there is a cut off point. Someone else might be able to answer this one.

I hope this helps you.

Best,

Shark
*Rob
Message 33 of 35 (24 Views)

Re: To Vault or Not to Vault?

05-17-2006 01:51 PM in reply to: *David Dixon
So, when I install Vault on the server, (which is the plan) I am not limited
to 10 peoples logged in at once?

I guess I need to see it in action, so to speak. Are there any webcasts
yet?
Even a decent set of manuals, install and use, would help.
And I did read the ones on the DVD. My guess is they were written BY an
I.T. guy FOR an I.T. guy. Which I am not.

More questions:
There are users here who open multiple instances of LDT at the moment
(against my advice), will Vault affect this practice?
We will probally logon to Vault automatically with C3D, so every user is
logged into Vault also. Is that correct?
Or would it be better to login to Vault, check out dwg, log out of Vault, do
the work, log back into Vault and check in the dwg?


I understand Mechanical has used Vault for several years, it must work good,
right...


Shark and Scott, Many Thanks.


"Scott McEachron" wrote in message
news:5178068@discussion.autodesk.com...
The 10 user limit is in reference to what XP allows. Installed on Server
2003 and it becomes a function of the database.

http://tinyurl.com/el5rn
--

sm

Scott McEachron
DC CADD, Dallas - Fort Worth
http://c3dpavingtheway.blogspot.com/


wrote in message news:5177757@discussion.autodesk.com...
To my knowledge you can have as many logins as you want. The 10 user limit
is in reference to the suggested amount of users who should access the vault
at any given time (at the same time). But, this is still just a
suggeestion. You will be able to have more users accessing the vault at one
time, but you will most definately experience Lag in Data transfers. In
this case you would want to go with the Full MSSQL package.
*Rob
Message 34 of 35 (24 Views)

Re: To Vault or Not to Vault?

05-17-2006 01:53 PM in reply to: *David Dixon

wrote in message news:5161665@discussion.autodesk.com...
Now I find out I won't be able to plot directly to my plotters until they
are reformatted.


Is there some documentation on this?
What needs to be done to plot in 07? (C3D and companions)?

Rob
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Registered: ‎06-15-2005
Message 35 of 35 (24 Views)

Re: To Vault or Not to Vault?

05-17-2006 02:26 PM in reply to: *David Dixon
In order to Check out DWGs from the vault and work on them you will need to stay logged into the Vault.

If you are going to have 10 or fewer clients logged into a vault at any given time then the versions of SQL that Vault provides will be fine. But, if you intend to have more then 10 users at a time accessing the Vault, then you will more then likely want to go with a full version of MSSQL.

Scott might be able to answer this one better then me. I am pretty sure that you can have more then 10 users on the SQL server they give you, but I may be wrong. Anybody, please correct me if this is incorrect.

Best,

Shark

Oh, and don't worry if it takes you a little bit of time to figure this stuff out. It took me three days to figure out how to login to a vault server on another computer then the one I was on. This whole Vault thing is new to us all.

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