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Neilw
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Re: Tiered wall assembly

04-10-2012 12:09 AM in reply to: sboon

It is certainly a nice looking wall but with featurelines alone there is no intelligence to determine where a bench is needed. How do you know?

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Neilw
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Re: Tiered wall assembly

04-10-2012 12:19 AM in reply to: 907Trekker

I've never been in subassembly composer though I have seen a couple of videos at AU Online. It may do the job but it is beyond me. Since you have the skills could you put it together and show how it works? There have been a couple of other posts like this, so if you get it to work your assembly would be nice to have.

 

This is one of those cases where I wish we had support from an expert. Better yet, I wish the software didn't require such a complicated solution for a relatively simple task.

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BrianHailey
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Re: Tiered wall assembly

04-10-2012 07:20 AM in reply to: Neilw

Can you post up your alignment, profile, and surface as well? Otherwise we'll just be making stabs in the dark without being able to see exactly what you are running into. You can e-mail it to me if you would rather first name dot last name at cad-1.com

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Neilw
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Re: Tiered wall assembly

04-10-2012 07:51 AM in reply to: BrianHailey

The files were attached in my post on 4/8.

 

Thanks!

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sboon
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Re: Tiered wall assembly

04-10-2012 07:51 AM in reply to: Neilw

For those who are looking at a corridor solution I think that you might be missing a major issue at the corners.  It may be possible to deal with the inside corners but I don't see any way to build the outside corner where the baseline alignment is not perpendicular to the upper walls.  The pic below is from Neil's drawing with the frequency turned up to show what happens.

 

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Neilw
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Re: Tiered wall assembly

04-10-2012 08:07 AM in reply to: sboon

You are dead right on that Steve. It was a concern to me but I felt that issue could be dealt with using infills, though not an ideal solution. Perhaps the offset alignment approach will give a better solution if it can be done efficiently.

 

The bottom line is corridors or the grading tools need some improvements.

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sboon
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Re: Tiered wall assembly

04-10-2012 08:21 AM in reply to: Neilw

IMHO this type of problem is more suited to grading than a corridor solution.  We've both commented previously on the lack of mitered corners for grading objects.  I spent some time playing around with how mitered and chamfered corners might be implemented in a future release, and found that it's more difficult that I would have imagined.

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907Trekker
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Re: Tiered wall assembly

04-10-2012 09:05 AM in reply to: Neilw

I'll see if I can put something together after work today, I have a few crazy dealines.  I'm anchorage so it might be pretty late at night your time.

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907Trekker
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Re: Tiered wall assembly

04-10-2012 09:07 AM in reply to: sboon

I wouldn't worry about the outside corners, just throw in a very tiny like 0.005' curve and have it sample at a user defined station.

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Neilw
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Re: Tiered wall assembly

04-10-2012 10:14 AM in reply to: 907Trekker

It seems like a good idea but as the curves get projected to each tier the fillets become more pronounced. It might be workable though.

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